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Article #524Re: Dualism
From: David Chalmers
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:48
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:48
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In article <7668@skye.ed.ac.uk> jeff@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Jeff Dalton) writes: >In article <1992Sep17.154637.9156@guinness.idbsu.edu> holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes: >It's important not to forget that David Chalmers is talking about logical >possibility and not physical possibility. Something might be logically >possible even if physically possible. Of course, not everyone will >accept that logical possibility is an interesting notion. That's sort of right, but I'm not happy with "physical possibility". In general I'm happier calling the other major possibility class "empirical possibility", or "nomic possibility" -- i.e. possibility subject to the laws of nature. Calling it "physical possibility" buys into the assumption that the only laws of nature are physical laws. (The zombie is almost certainly nomically (empirically) impossible, but it's obviously physically possible if it's logically possible -- it's physically identical to me, so it can't violate any laws of physics!) In considering the relevance of the possibility of zombies for the truth of physicalism, logical possibility rather than nomic possibility is obviously the relevant notion. I'm sure Mr. Holmes is aware of this. >Not so. When two things are actually the same it can still be >logically possible for them to be different. Not always, though. >You have to figure out which case you're in. But you don't always >have to know two things are actually different to know that it's >logically possible for them to be different. Not quite. On the standard line, two things that are identical are necessarily identical: how could something be other than itself? Take a look at Kripke's _Naming and Necessity_, for instance. However, what can be the case is that two *descriptions* that pick out the same thing in the real world pick out two different things in other possible worlds. -- Dave Chalmers (dave@cogsci.indiana.edu) Center for Research on Concepts and Cognition, Indiana University. "It is not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable."
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!destroyer!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!bronze.ucs.indiana.edu!chalmers From: chalmers@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) Subject: Re: Dualism Message-ID: <Bw1s8p.Mtp@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: bronze.ucs.indiana.edu Organization: Indiana University References: <Bup0u5.D72@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1992Sep17.154637.9156@guinness.idbsu.edu> <7668@skye.ed.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:48:25 GMT Lines: 40