🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: sci.philosophy.tech
Article #670

Re: FREE WILL 1: Compatibilism sucks!

#670
From: Daryl McCullough
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:55
23 lines
1312 bytes
rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) writes:

>>  [Definition of determinism:]
>>    `The theory that the state of a system at some time and the  rela-
>>  tions governing the  time development of  the system determine,  un-
>>  ambiguously, the state of  the system at any  later time.

>This definition presupposes that "the state of a system at some time"
>has meaning.  According to relativity, the notion of simultaneity is
>dependent upon the observer.

I don't think that relativity is at all incompatible with determinism.
Of course, there are an infinite number of ways to assign times to
space-time events, but you can always state determinism as follows:

    The universe is deterministic if for *every* time assignment to
    space-time points, and for every time t (according to that
    assignment), the state of the universe at time t uniquely determines
    the state at times t'>t.

Daryl McCullough
ORA Corp.
Ithaca, NY
Technical Details
Message-ID: <1992Nov10.135511.1021@oracorp.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!tcsi.com!iat.holonet.net!psinntp!psinntp!scylla!daryl

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,talk.philosophy.misc
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!tcsi.com!iat.holonet.net!psinntp!psinntp!scylla!daryl
From: daryl@oracorp.com (Daryl McCullough)
Subject: Re: FREE WILL 1: Compatibilism sucks!
Message-ID: <1992Nov10.135511.1021@oracorp.com>
Organization: ORA Corporation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:55:11 GMT
Lines: 23