Article View: sci.philosophy.tech
Article #713Re: That which hurts
From: Jamie
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:54
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:54
63 lines
3133 bytes
3133 bytes
In article <Bztz5L.DMM@casper.cs.uct.ac.za>, nhorne@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (N E Horne) said: >Somewhere along the "Truth" thread, Jamie writes: > > >" Consider the sentence which would come first on an alphabetized > list of 100-word sentences of English. > > It is either a true sentence of English or a false one. No one has > ever interpreted it (I'll wager). With the possible exception of > one of us, no one ever will. " > >That something's amiss becomes clear when you consider that in the event of your >sentence being an imperative (the requirement of alphabetic order may yield >something like "Abandon aardvarks!" at the top of your list) or a question >the sentence is neither true nor false. Quite so. I should have said, "indicative sentences." >In fact, it is widely held that propositions, as opposed to sentences, are the >bearers of truth value. In fact, it is not. In fact, it is widely held that propositions, *in addition to sentences*, are the bearers of truth values. Many people, including theorists, do not like propositions at all. I do. But in the spirit of my ontological liberalism, I try to make as many accomodations for the propositional skeptics as I can. This liberalism stood me well in a brief conversation (resulting from one of my postings to this news group) with a Wittgensteinian, about propositions unexpressable in English. Even so, I take your point, approximately. >The process of interpretaion involves nothing less >than establishing a correspondence between sentences and statements (which >also have no truth value) and if possible (and this is not possible in the >cases mentioned above) between statements and propositions. Again, I agree with the spirit. I would not call interpretation a "process." There need be no literal process of interpretation in order for a sentence to be interpreted. An interpretation (thought of as a mathematical function) once stipulated, no one actually has to apply it. Thus, we may think of the alphabetically first 100-word INDICATIVE (nb my concession) sentence of English as interpreted, and as being true or false, even though there has never been any intepretive process for it. >Consider also what truth value you would care to assign to ambiguous sentences. Again, I take the point. I am inclined to think of ambiguous sentences along the lines of indexical sentences. Is that sufficient? Jamie >Neil Horne >Cape Town
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<1hn7vnINNd6d@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!noc.near.net!news.Brown.EDU!news.Brown.EDU!newsReferences:
<1gib6mINN76i@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> <1992Dec14.201453.17282@guinness.idbsu.edu> <1gius4INNo68@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> <1992Dec20.235407.14044@news2.cis.umn.edu> <1h4r5rINNbl@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> <Bztz5L.DMM@casper.cs.uct.ac.za>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!noc.near.net!news.Brown.EDU!news.Brown.EDU!news From: PL436000@brownvm.brown.edu (Jamie) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: That which hurts Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 10:54:41 EST Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island USA Lines: 63 Message-ID: <1hn7vnINNd6d@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> References: <1gib6mINN76i@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> <1992Dec14.201453.17282@guinness.idbsu.edu> <1gius4INNo68@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> <1992Dec20.235407.14044@news2.cis.umn.edu> <1h4r5rINNbl@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> <Bztz5L.DMM@casper.cs.uct.ac.za> NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta