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Article #783Re: Quantifiers
From: Robert Knippen
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:13
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:13
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In article <1992Dec30.230419.4341@guinness.idbsu.edu> holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes: > >Restricted quantifiers, in ZFC or NF, are nothing more than formulae >with one free variable; (for all x in range Q)(P) means nothing more >than (for _all_ x)(if "Q holds of x" then P). There is no other way >of introducing restricted quantifiers in either theory. > I'm not at all interested in the points being disputed in this thread, but as an advocate of restricted quantification, I have to point out that this is dead wrong, unless I am confused about the nature of ZFC and NF. The point of restricted quantification, as I see it, is to avoid the nutty consequences that arise from using "if". One such nutty consequence is giving clear truth conditions in cases where Q holds of nothing. With restricted quantification, the semantics returns "tilt" when Q is true of nothing:(All: Qx)(Px) is not evaluable when Qx does not hold of any x, because no x get plugged into P. With unrestricted quantification, the proposition is true. These kinds of cases, which might be summed up as "results which do not seem consistent with natural language," multiply on further investigation. Even if I'm wrong about this, it is still wrong say that the two are equivalent. Unrestricted quantification forces you to split up the domain during evaluation, using your system. Restricted quantification allows you to stipulate a subpart of the domain, in which to evaluate a given proposition. Further, restricted quantification makes formulae more closely mirror natural language If this has been discussed early in the thread, just forgive me, don't bother flaming. I'm aware that I don't really know what's going on in the thread. Bob r-knippen@uchicago.edu
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,sci.logic Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!uchinews!ellis!rmk4 From: rmk4@ellis.uchicago.edu (Robert Knippen) Subject: Re: Quantifiers Message-ID: <1992Dec31.191312.8278@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@uchinews.uchicago.edu (News System) Reply-To: rmk4@midway.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago References: <1992Dec30.183153.2819@guinness.idbsu.edu> <1hsvljINNb0h@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> <1992Dec30.230419.4341@guinness.idbsu.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:13:12 GMT Lines: 36