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Article #803Re: Philosophy before science ? (was : Seman
From: Gary Merrill
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 14:03
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 14:03
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In article <schiller.726394556@hpas5>, schiller@prl.philips.nl (schiller c) writes: |> sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes: |> |> [ discussion deleted ] |> |> >While in general I agree with your response to the simplistic and |> >uncritical view expressed above, the view you express here is also |> >a bit simplistic. For example, |> |> [ ...] |> |> >-- |> >Gary H. Merrill [Principal Systems Developer, C Compiler Development] |> >SAS Institute Inc. / SAS Campus Dr. / Cary, NC 27513 / (919) 677-8000 |> >sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com ... !mcnc!sas!sasghm |> |> |> To dismiss an argument because it is "simplistic" is a |> typical example of, well, ... arrgogance ! |> A statement is either true or false, but "simplistic" is not |> evidence for false. Speaking of arrogance, perhaps a bit more study should be devoted to the meanings of the terms here. Do please try to distinguish between "simple" and "simplistic". While a case can be made that dismissing a position (not an *argument* mind you) because it is *simple* is a bad move, dismissing a position because it is *simplistic* if perfectly all right. Just get out your Webster's and check the meanings. You will discover that "false simplicity" (and hence "false") is part of the *meaning* of this term. Thus, while "simplistic" is not *evidence* for falsity, "false" is a part of its very meaning. |> If in physics one had always dismissed "simplistic" arguments, |> one would have got nowhere. On the contrary, the textbooks are |> full of "simplistic" solutions to difficult problems. By *definition*, a *simplistic* solution is not a solution (think along the lines of "false friend"). I did, by the way, not merely *label* the position as simplistic, but went on at some length to indicate its flaws (which in any event are well known). -- Gary H. Merrill [Principal Systems Developer, C Compiler Development] SAS Institute Inc. / SAS Campus Dr. / Cary, NC 27513 / (919) 677-8000 sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com ... !mcnc!sas!sasghm
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gatech!concert!sas!mozart.unx.sas.com!sasghm From: sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) Subject: Re: Philosophy before science ? (was : Seman Originator: sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com Sender: news@unx.sas.com (Noter of Newsworthy Events) Message-ID: <C0HLqI.LA@unx.sas.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:03:54 GMT References: <102936.2005.14241@kcbbs.gen.nz> <C0FssI.DtF@unx.sas.com> <schiller.726394556@hpas5> Nntp-Posting-Host: theseus.unx.sas.com Organization: SAS Institute Inc. Lines: 51