🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: sci.philosophy.tech
Article #824

Re: Which theory before observation ?

#824
From: schiller c
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:38
22 lines
1780 bytes
christo@psych.toronto.edu (Christopher Green) writes:

>>In article <schiller.726487694@hpas5> schiller@prl.philips.nl (schiller c) writes:
>>>My position as a scientist is that facts, i.e. the  results of observation,
>>>are the basis of theories. There are no "well-known" flaws of this position. 
>>>
>I'm afriad that this is simply ill-informed. The observation-theory distinction
>has long been a matter a controversy in philosophy of science. The best-known
>"flaws" are put forward in Putnam's "What theories are not."  The position
>outlined there is a little technical, but the central example is that one
>cannot establish, through obsevation, that a thing is red unless one has
>a conceptual scheme for colors that includes red in advance.

You are right: one needs a concept of red. But a concept and a theory
are two different things. Red is a concept formed by children
before they are six months old, and it gives a name to certain class 
of colours. When a child says: "it is red", it just says, "it has a similar
look than all the previous things I have observed, which I call red".
The statement "It is red" therefore just compares different observations.
Not much of theory there.

			Christoph Schiller
Technical Details
Message-ID: <schiller.726741489@hpas5>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!relay.philips.nl!prle!hpas5!schiller
References: <C0HLqI.LA@unx.sas.com> <schiller.726487694@hpas5> <C0Jw8r.838.1@cs.cmu.edu> <1993Jan9.161851.28603@psych.toronto.edu>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!relay.philips.nl!prle!hpas5!schiller
From: schiller@prl.philips.nl (schiller c)
Subject: Re: Which theory before observation ?
Message-ID: <schiller.726741489@hpas5>
Sender: news@prl.philips.nl (USENET News System)
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
References: <C0HLqI.LA@unx.sas.com> <schiller.726487694@hpas5> <C0Jw8r.838.1@cs.cmu.edu> <1993Jan9.161851.28603@psych.toronto.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:38:09 GMT
Lines: 23