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Article #826Re: Those funny secret old words
From: Michael Feld
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:29
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:29
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In article <1ipt4lINN5af@titan.ucc.umass.edu> danco@titan.ucc.umass.edu (DANIEL F COHEN) writes:
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> miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>PL436000@brownvm.brown.edu (Jamie) writes:
>>>>From: pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU (Stephen Grossman)
>>>
>>>> SG Zeleny has perfected the argumentum ad loudmouth.
>>> Jamie I wonder if Grossman actually knows what "ad" means, or if he
>>> only *mistakenly* called himself a loudmouth?
>>> Miner Apparently you don't know what it means either, unless you're
>> kidding...<:-)
The "argumentum ad baculum" is not an argument directed at or to a stick,
but means: arguing by appeal, not to reason, but to force ("say that again
and I'll infect you with this here baculus"); an "ad hominem" is
reasoning by reference to one's opponent's supposed defects, rather
than by reference to any flaws in this argument.
So: "ad loudmouth" means "Zeleny has only a loud voice, but no
argumentive support". Strikes me that that flame is your standard bit
of ad hominem itself: nasty and undeserved.
--
Michael Feld | E-mail: <feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Dept. of Philosophy | FAX: (204) 261-0021
University of Manitoba | Voice: (204) 474-9136
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 2M8, Canada
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,sci.math Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!newsflash.concordia.ca!mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca!feld From: feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld) Subject: Re: Those funny secret old words Message-ID: <C0ow0F.2KE@ccu.umanitoba.ca> Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca Nntp-Posting-Host: ccu.umanitoba.ca Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada References: <1hsep4INN266@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> <1993Jan10.081522.46274@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <1ipt4lINN5af@titan.ucc.umass.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:29:02 GMT Lines: 26