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Article #908Re: Searle on animal consciousness
From: Thomas Clarke
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:47
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:47
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In article <1k1mj7INN8cu@shelley.u.washington.edu> forbis@stein.u.washington.edu (Gary Forbis) writes: > In article <1k0r1tINN5fn@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu> chandra@cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran) writes: > >Would you say that a patient under anesthesia is in pain, he just > >doesn't feel it? I think that would be an odd use of the term. > > I think that if the anesthetic prevents signals from entering the brain then > no pain is felt but am less willing to claim a general anesthetic blocks pain > when it might be the case that it merely blocks the ability to report pain. The drug scopolamine is often given to women in labor since it doesn't really make them unconscious so they can cooperate at least a bit: "push" and all that. The benefit is that the women don't remember the experience/pain afterward. I can't speak from experience (my wife had "natural" with a touch of demerol), but I understand that women under scopolamine are quite verbal, cursing the men who did this to them etc. etc. Corollary question. If you don't remember, in what sense are you conscious? -- Thomas Clarke Institute for Simulation and Training, University of Central FL 12424 Research Parkway, Suite 300, Orlando, FL 32826 (407)658-5030, FAX: (407)658-5059, clarke@acme.ucf.edu
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!digex.com!intercon!udel!bogus.sura.net!darwin.sura.net!cs.ucf.edu!news From: clarke@acme.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke) Subject: Re: Searle on animal consciousness Message-ID: <1993Jan27.174733.3100@cs.ucf.edu> Sender: news@cs.ucf.edu (News system) Organization: University of Central Florida References: <1k1mj7INN8cu@shelley.u.washington.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:47:33 GMT Lines: 28