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Re: The nature of communication

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From: Sarge Gerbode
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1987 05:47
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In article <2392@mmintl.UUCP> franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) writes:
>Are the constituent elements of music *symbols*?  I think not; and the fact
>that they are not symbols, and cannot be used to make statements, rather
>strongly corroborates the claim.

I think music most certainly symbolic.  For instance, Renaissance musicians
considered the type of scale used (Ionian, Dorian, Mixolydian, etc.) to
represent different sentiments.  Also -- how about tone poems?  Word
painting?

And what about the Cross, the Crucifix, the Swastica, the Hammer and Sickle?
Aren't these symbols? But can they be used to make statements (other than
ostensive statements, of course, like "<showing the cross> is a Cross."  In the
ostensive sense, anything demonstrable could be used to make a statement).
-- 
"Absolute knowledge means never having to change your mind."

Sarge Gerbode
Institute for Research in Metapsychology
950 Guinda St.
Palo Alto, CA 94301
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From: sarge@thirdi.UUCP (Sarge Gerbode)
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Subject: Re: The nature of communication
Message-ID: <189@thirdi.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 21-Sep-87 01:47:14 EDT
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Posted: Mon Sep 21 01:47:14 1987
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Organization: Institute for Research in Metapsychology
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Keywords: communication symbols messages
Summary: How about the Cross?