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Article #1177The Dunn Summary
From: DROEGE
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 02:23
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 02:23
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Many thanks to Bruc Dunn for an attempt at an overview of CNF experiments. I nominate Bruce as the keeper of the summary table, and hereby provide my input. Type 1 No recombiner, completely open. Mills runs this way. Plain water, very open to the air for his large cells. Ni Cathode, Pt anode, K2CO3 electrolyte. Sees heat. Ying. P&F type cell, open, but exposed to a source. Sees heat. Appleby. P&F type cell, not gas tight, Saw heat (Not Active?) Type 2, No recombiner, bubbler Huggins. P&F type cell, Saw heat, not active now, but Martha Schreiber of his group now works with McKubre. Type 3, Recombiner, bubbler Droege ran Mills experiments in this mode. No net heat seen. Type 4, Recombiner, orifice No experiments known to me in this category. Type 5, Recombiner, syringe or bellows Droege runs mostly this way. I have run with cell purges of Helium, Deuterium, Oxygen, and Argon. With the Deuterium purge, absorbed Deuterium is made up by more Deuterium from an auxilliary syringe. With the Oxygen purge, excess oxygen is taken off into an auxilliary syringe. The present run is with an Argon purge. The cell was filed and sealed up in the Argon bag. An early disaserous attempt was mad to fill with Helium. All that is left is a great picture of me in front of the apparatus with my cat and the Helium baloon I used as a source of helium. Wonderful American Flag on the balloon. Type 6. Closed and pressurized. McKubre and one of the Japanese runs this way. McKubre back loads with up to 10,000 psi of D2 gas. There is no vent. Evolved gas just builds up the pressure. But now I guess (after the accident) that the blow out plugs are set for lower pressure. He said the last runs were made at 50 psi, I remember. The big mystery is how P&F run. To my knowledge they have never told us. The early paper said "sealed with parafilm". What the heck is parafilm? But if they seal the cells, they have to vent the gas. My guess it that they are Type 2, but perhaps someone can fill in. Remember that even Hawkins was never in the back room, so we have to get the answer from P or F. The only first class experiment that I know of (McKubre) runs with a 100% D2 fill. I guess 10,000 psi is a lot of kPa. McKubre says that this high pressure completly prevents the formation of O2 bubbles. Perhaps someone can explain this. Where does the O go if it does not make bubbles? But he has also claimed excess heat at the much lower 50 psi. How about it Bruce, do you want to be keeper of the matrix? If so I will start sending everything I can find. At present I am keeping what I know in my head and trying to do the same job as you in trying to find a common thread in the successful experiments. Tom Droege
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Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!ames!pacbell.com!tandem!zorch!fusion From: DROEGE@fnald.fnal.gov Subject: The Dunn Summary Message-ID: <930104171542.20818a8f@FNALD.FNAL.GOV> Sender: scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller) Reply-To: DROEGE@fnald.fnal.gov Organization: Sci.physics.fusion/Mail Gateway Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:23:54 GMT Lines: 62