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Article #1183What did Droege know, and when did he know it?
From: John Logajan
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 07:21
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 07:21
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J_FARRELL@acad.fandm.edu writes: >Nonetheless, Mills is now depicted as a "moving >target" by someone who failed to heed Mills' advice and who asked Mills for >suggestions to further his (Droege's) perception of how the experimental >verification of this excess heat phenomenon should proceed. Droege did in fact duplicate the Mills experiment and results and so posted those results here. He then went on to throw additional curves at it to see if it would break. I think his experimental variations are much more difficult to pass off than you are letting on. To reiterate, he (Droege) *got* excess heat with a recombiner attached, as long as the recombiner was outside the calorimeter. Simply moving the recombiner inside the calorimeter (and thus eliminating the need for the 1.48*I "correction") made the anomalous heat disappeared. You have to recall that at that time the claimed anomalous heat was still less than the I*V input, and so could be explained by recombination or parallel current paths. In my own experiments of a few months ago, either recombination or parallel current paths caused a measured 23% reduction in evolved gases. This would have caused a mis-identification of anomalous heat in an open cell of the Mills type. >I am now free to say that more recent experiments have 2.5 watts in and >50 watts out. Once again the 2.5 watts is V*I (no 1.48*I correction). With success rates like these, you can afford to be more generous toward your detractors. :-) But seriously, is there any possibility of getting an independent neutral observer to witness this gain of 20 in operation? He could sign a non-disclosure agreement on technical details (he wouldn't even need to be given any beyond those measuring electrical energy input and temperature measurement.) I believe it might be a lot easier to find neutral competent observers on this issue than you may at first think. -- - John Logajan MS010, Network Systems; 7600 Boone Ave; Brooklyn Park, MN 55428 - logajan@network.com, 612-424-4888, Fax 612-424-2853
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Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!noc.msc.net!ns!ns!logajan From: logajan@ns.network.com (John Logajan) Subject: What did Droege know, and when did he know it? Message-ID: <1993Jan5.072119.10548@ns.network.com> Sender: news@ns.network.com Nntp-Posting-Host: ns Organization: Network Systems Corporation References: <01GT4LH9NCXE000827@ACAD.FANDM.EDU> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 07:21:19 GMT Lines: 40