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What did Droege know, and when did he know it?

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From: John Logajan
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 07:21
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J_FARRELL@acad.fandm.edu writes:
>Nonetheless, Mills is now depicted as a "moving
>target" by someone who failed to heed Mills' advice and who asked Mills for
>suggestions to further his (Droege's) perception of how the experimental
>verification of this excess heat phenomenon should proceed.

Droege did in fact duplicate the Mills experiment and results and so posted
those results here.  He then went on to throw additional curves at it to see
if it would break.  I think his experimental variations are much more difficult
to pass off than you are letting on.

To reiterate, he (Droege) *got* excess heat with a recombiner attached, as long
as the recombiner was outside the calorimeter.  Simply moving the recombiner
inside the calorimeter (and thus eliminating the need for the 1.48*I
"correction") made the anomalous heat disappeared.

You have to recall that at that time the claimed anomalous heat was still
less than the I*V input, and so could be explained by recombination or
parallel current paths.  In my own experiments of a few months ago, either
recombination or parallel current paths caused a measured 23% reduction in
evolved gases.  This would have caused a mis-identification of anomalous
heat in an open cell of the Mills type.

>I am now free to say that more recent experiments have 2.5 watts in and
>50 watts out. Once again the 2.5 watts is V*I (no 1.48*I correction).

With success rates like these, you can afford to be more generous toward
your detractors.  :-)

But seriously, is there any possibility of getting an independent neutral
observer to witness this gain of 20 in operation?  He could sign a
non-disclosure agreement on technical details (he wouldn't even need to be
given any beyond those measuring electrical energy input and temperature
measurement.)

I believe it might be a lot easier to find neutral competent observers on
this issue than you may at first think.
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- John Logajan MS010, Network Systems; 7600 Boone Ave; Brooklyn Park, MN 55428
- logajan@network.com, 612-424-4888, Fax 612-424-2853
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