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Article #1003Re: WHY EINSTEIN STILL RULES
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:09
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:09
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Commonplace experience: If the observer were to hurry towards the source of WATER WAVES, the observer would now pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That is, moving observer finds both the frequency and the speed of the wave to have increased (while the WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE BETWEEN CRESTS - HAS REMAINED CONSTANT). Three possible statements about LIGHT: (A) (Einstein should not rule): "If the observer were to hurry towards the source of the light, the observer would now pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That means that, in analogy with the water wave case, moving observer finds both the frequency and the speed of light to have increased (while the WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE BETWEEN CRESTS - HAS REMAINED CONSTANT)." (B) (Einstein still rules but things get dangerous since an analogy frequently used in textbooks - between water waves and light waves - is explicitly rejected): "If the observer were to hurry towards the source of the light, the observer would now pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That would mean that moving observer would find the frequency of light to have increased (but, in contrast with the water wave case, he would find the speed of light to have remained constant and the WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE BETWEEN CRESTS - TO HAVE DECREASED)." http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/big_bang/index.html (C) (Einstein is to rule forever; the analogy between water waves and light waves is only implicitly rejected): John Norton: "Here's a light wave and an observer. If the observer were to hurry towards the source of the light, the observer would now pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That would mean that moving observer would find the frequency of the light to have increased (AND CORRESPONDINGLY FOR THE WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE BETWEEN CRESTS - TO HAVE DECREASED)." Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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