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Article #1004Re: WHY EINSTEIN STILL RULES
From: Don Stockbauer
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:11
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:11
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On Nov 5, 1:05 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Nov 4, 10:44 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > In Einsteiniana: > > >http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327246.800-13-more-things-mag... > > "In 2005, researchers at the MAGIC gamma-ray telescope on La Palma in > > the Canary Islands were studying gamma-ray bursts emitted by the black > > hole in the centre of the Markarian 501 galaxy, half a billion light > > years away. The burst's high-energy gamma rays arrived at the > > telescope 4 minutes later than the lower-energy rays. Both parts of > > the spectrum should have been emitted at the same time. So is the time > > lag due to the high-energy radiation travelling slower through space? > > That wouldn't make sense: it would contravene one of the central > > tenets of special relativity. According to Einstein, all > > electromagnetic radiation always travels through vacuum at the cosmic > > speed limit the speed of light. The energy of the radiation should be > > absolutely irrelevant." > > >http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/11/04/gamma-rays-einstein.html > > "At stake was nothing less than a foundation of modern physics -- > > Einstein's theory of relativity, which posits that all electromagnetic > > radiation travels at the same speed, whether low-energy radio waves, > > high-energy X-rays or gamma rays, or any wavelength in between. (...) > > After a journey of more than 7 billion light-years, however, the gamma > > ray photons arrived nine-tenths of a second apart on May 9, 2009 -- > > not enough of a lag to account for the theorized quantum effects. > > "Einstein, at this point, wins again," Michelson said." > > >http://live.psu.edu/story/42610 > > "Of the many gamma-ray photons detected by Fermi from the 2.1-second > > burst, two had energies differing by a million times. Yet after > > traveling some seven billion years, the pair of photons arrived just > > nine-tenths of a second apart. "This measurement eliminates any > > approach to a new theory of gravity that predicts a strong energy- > > dependent change in the speed of light," Michelson said. The long- > > distance experiment showed that "To one part in 100 million billion, > > these two photons traveled at the same speed. "EINSTEIN STILL RULES," > > Michelson said." > > > In Big Brother's world: > > >http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/ > > George Orwell: "In the end the Party would announce that two and two > > made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that > > they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their > > position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the > > very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their > > philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was > > terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, > > but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two > > and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the > > past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist > > only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable what then?" > > > Breathtaking news in Big Brother's world: In 2005, researchers at the > > MAGIC gamma-ray telescope on La Palma in the Canary Islands added two > > and two and did not get five, but then Stanford University's Peter > > Michelson, the lead scientist on the Fermi Large Area Telescope, added > > two and two again and did not get five either. "BIG BROTHER STILL > > RULES,"Michelson said. > > > Pentcho Valev > > pva...@yahoo.com > > I think that Einstein's legacy stuck because of his gravity theory. > > Mitch Raemsch Endless debate creates the Global Brain.
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