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Article #1119Re: DARK ENERGY OR TIRED LIGHT (DECREASED SPEED OF PHOTONS)?
From: Sam Wormley
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:31
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:31
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john wrote: > On Sep 13, 2:47 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote: >> john wrote: >> >>> Also, tired light explains how every point >>> can be the center for the expansion mirage. >>> john >> Tired Light is Still Dead >> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm#News >> >> 24 Apr 2008 - Blondin et al. (2008) studied distant supernovae using >> spectra to judge the age of the object during each observation. They >> found an aging rate that varied with redshift z like >> >> 1/(1+z)(0.97 +/- 0.10), >> >> compatible with the expected 1/(1+z) for expanding Universes, but 9.7 >> standard deviations away from the constant aging rate expected in the >> tired light model. > > > Don't you see that for the expanding > universe model, when you get far > enough from us, the other stuff is going to > have to be travelling at the speed of light? > > john Traveling at the speed of light with respect to what? Just what is it you think is violated?
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