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Article #1210Re: POSTSCIENTISM: FALSE AXIOMS AND ABSURD AXIOMS
From: xxein
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:02
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:02
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On Aug 12, 1:11 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > False (but not absurd!) axioms, e.g. Einstein's 1905 light postulate, > are extremely dangerous and can convert science into ideology: > > http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a909857880 > > Still some criticism involving REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM remains possible: > > http://www.labnews.co.uk/laboratory_article.php/4514/2/attack-on-grea... > > However in the era of Postscientism absurdity knows no limits and can > be inherent in the axioms themselves: > > L. McGlashan, Chemical thermodynamics, Academic Press, London (1979), > pp. 72-73: > "For an infinitesimal change in the state of a phase alpha we write > dU = T dS - p dV + SUM mu_B dn_B (1) > We regard equation (1) as an axiom and call it the fundamental > equation for a change of the state of a phase alpha. It is one half of > the second law of thermodynamics. We do not ask where it comes from. > Indeed we do not admit the existence of any more fundamental relations > from which it might have been derived. Nor shall we here enquire into > the history of its formulation, though that is a subject of great > interest to the historian of science. It is a starting point; it must > be learnt by heart." > > In the case of ABSURD axioms no criticism is possible and > postscientists are free to deduce anything. So Ilya Prigogine combined > the above "fundamental" (Gibbs') equation with the INCOMMENSURABLE > equation dU=dQ-pdV and mathematically vindicated his idiotic idea that > the entropy, like a substance, is either produced inside the system or > imported or both. The postscientific community immediately gave > Prigogine the Nobel prize. > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com xxein: Nothing wrong with that. It's idiots that cling to old axioms.
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