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Article #1291Re: Bending of Light by the Sun NEVER ACCURATELY MEASURED.
From: hanson
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:35
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:35
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-------- ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha.... ---- > "Dr. Henri Wilson" <hw@..> wrote in message news:ai9ls41u2scejmgogjdi39c0c0rr0iuqf7@4ax.com... > Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote: >>Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: in >>> hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: >>>> "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote: >>> > >"Dr. Henri Wilson" <hw@..> wrote: >>> > >> I don't believe any of the experiments claiming >>> > >> measurement the bending of light by the sun has >>> > >> been at all accurate. The reason I say this is >>> > >> Gravitational bending of light and lensing are >>> > >> a naturalconsequence of Newtonian theory. >>> > >> Light is accelerated by gravity just like anything else. >>> "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote: >>> > >Most of it is the Coriolis effect. >>> > >It take 8 minutes for light to travel from the Sun to Earth. >>> > > In that time Earth travels 8 * 360/(1year * 365 days >>> > >* 24 hours * 60 minutes) = 0.0055 degrees or 0.33 arc >>> > > minutes or 20 arc seconds from a straight line >>> > >connecting the Earth, Sun and a distant star. Eddington >>> > >was a dork. >>> > > http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/gifs/coriolis.mov >>> hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: >>> > Yes, the whole past procedure appears to be flawed. >>> > But Eddington and Einstein knew there were thousands >>> > of little eric geeses around who would lap up anything that >>> > resembled science fiction. >>> Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Then look at the more recent observations. You do know >>> there have been recent observations...right? >> Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote: >>Earlier observations were fraud but recent are not....right? >>That is, it was fraud that converted Albert the Plagiarist into >> Divine Albert whereas recent observations just confirmed >> the Divinity....right? >>http://www.cieletespace.fr/evenement/relativit-les-preuves-taient-fausses >>RELATIVITE: LES PREUVES ETAIENT FAUSSES >>http://www.cieletespaceradio.fr/index.php/2008/05/26/390-histoire-des-sciences-les-preuves-de-la-relativite >> hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: >>> > Nothing wrong with gravitational lensing though. >>> > It is plainly Newtonian. >>> Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Except it is wrong by a factor of two. >> Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Which equation is consistent with the gravitational redshift >> factor 1+V/c^2 experimentally confirmed by Pound and Rebka: >> Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) given by Newton's >> emission theory of light, or >> Einstein's 1915 "improved" equation c'=c(1+2V/c^2)? > hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: > Good one Pencho.....when he fudged his equation to match > the sun's supposed bending he stuffed it up for the > Pound Rebka result. > hanson wrote: ... ahahahaha... and the story would get even better if Androcles would have elaborated more on his take. Androcles often quotes from Einstein's 1905 paper and says: > ::AE:: "Nun bewegt sich aber der Lichtstrahl relativ zum ::AE:: Anfangspunkt von k im ruhenden System gemessen ::AE:: mit der Geschwindigkeit V - v, so da� gilt: t = x'/(V-v)." and then Andro or someone clarifies this by posting that ~~ == "during the days of Einstein's original 1905 papers == "V" was commonly used to denote "c", the speed of light. > Now, if that is so then (1+V/c^2) or (1+2V/c^2) can be written as (1+1/c) or (1+2/c) ... & we have an entirely new ball game... which is why Relativity is so relative.... It's got somerthing for everybody... because it came out of the mindset of a tribe that could walk on water, make wine from water and satisfy 7000 ancestors of Einstein's Dingleberries with 1 single fish... > Fishy, fishy!.. But "Trust Me"... "Go Figure!... ahahahahaha... Thanks for the laughs, guys!....ahahahaha... ahahahanson
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