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Article #1292Re: Bending of Light by the Sun NEVER ACCURATELY MEASURED.
From: hw Henri Wilson
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:09
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:09
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:35:29 GMT, "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> wrote: >-------- ahahahaha.... AHAHAHAHA.... ahahahaha.... ---- >> >"Dr. Henri Wilson" <hw@..> wrote in message >news:ai9ls41u2scejmgogjdi39c0c0rr0iuqf7@4ax.com... >> Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: in >>>> hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: >>>>> "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote: >>>> > >"Dr. Henri Wilson" <hw@..> wrote: >>>> > >> I don't believe any of the experiments claiming >>>> > >> measurement the bending of light by the sun has >>>> > >> been at all accurate. The reason I say this is >>>> > >> Gravitational bending of light and lensing are >>>> > >> a naturalconsequence of Newtonian theory. >>>> > >> Light is accelerated by gravity just like anything else. >>>> >"Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote: >>>> > >Most of it is the Coriolis effect. >>>> > >It take 8 minutes for light to travel from the Sun to Earth. >>>> > > In that time Earth travels 8 * 360/(1year * 365 days >>>> > >* 24 hours * 60 minutes) = 0.0055 degrees or 0.33 arc >>>> > > minutes or 20 arc seconds from a straight line >>>> > >connecting the Earth, Sun and a distant star. Eddington >>>> > >was a dork. >>>> > > http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/gifs/coriolis.mov >>>> >hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: >>>> > Yes, the whole past procedure appears to be flawed. >>>> > But Eddington and Einstein knew there were thousands >>>> > of little eric geeses around who would lap up anything that >>>> > resembled science fiction. >>>> >Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Then look at the more recent observations. You do know >>>> there have been recent observations...right? >>> >Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>Earlier observations were fraud but recent are not....right? >>>That is, it was fraud that converted Albert the Plagiarist into >>> Divine Albert whereas recent observations just confirmed >>> the Divinity....right? >>>http://www.cieletespace.fr/evenement/relativit-les-preuves-taient-fausses >>>RELATIVITE: LES PREUVES ETAIENT FAUSSES >>>http://www.cieletespaceradio.fr/index.php/2008/05/26/390-histoire-des-sciences-les-preuves-de-la-relativite >>> >hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: >>>> > Nothing wrong with gravitational lensing though. >>>> > It is plainly Newtonian. >>>> >Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Except it is wrong by a factor of two. >>> >Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Which equation is consistent with the gravitational redshift >>> factor 1+V/c^2 experimentally confirmed by Pound and Rebka: >>> Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) given by Newton's >>> emission theory of light, or >>> Einstein's 1915 "improved" equation c'=c(1+2V/c^2)? >> >hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote: >> Good one Pencho.....when he fudged his equation to match >> the sun's supposed bending he stuffed it up for the >> Pound Rebka result. >> >hanson wrote: >... ahahahaha... and the story would get even better if Androcles >would have elaborated more on his take. Androcles often quotes >from Einstein's 1905 paper and says: >> >::AE:: "Nun bewegt sich aber der Lichtstrahl relativ zum >::AE:: Anfangspunkt von k im ruhenden System gemessen >::AE:: mit der Geschwindigkeit V - v, so da� gilt: t = x'/(V-v)." >and then Andro or someone clarifies this by posting that ~~ >== "during the days of Einstein's original 1905 papers >== "V" was commonly used to denote "c", the speed of light. >> >Now, if that is so then (1+V/c^2) or (1+2V/c^2) can be written >as (1+1/c) or (1+2/c) ... & we have an entirely new ball game... >which is why Relativity is so relative.... It's got somerthing >for everybody... because it came out of the mindset of a tribe >that could walk on water, make wine from water and satisfy >7000 ancestors of Einstein's Dingleberries with 1 single fish... >> >Fishy, fishy!.. But "Trust Me"... "Go Figure!... ahahahahaha... >Thanks for the laughs, guys!....ahahahaha... ahahahanson Welcome back Hanson, I was getting worried about you...thought the libel police might have gottten you. The Einstein dingleberries can't make up their minds whether or not the factor of two actually exists. If it does, they are stuffed. If it doesn't they are still stuffed.... I look forward to some more laughs... Harry Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T) www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm. .....
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