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Re: Interpreting the Michelson-Morley experiment in 1887

#1388
From: NoEinstein
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:43
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On Feb 8, 5:35 pm, doug <x...@xx.com> wrote:
> NoEinstein wrote:
> > On Feb 5, 7:53 pm, hw@..(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
>
> > Dear Henri:  Whoa!  M-M was specifically ASSUMED to be able to detect
> > the SLOWING of light (a velocity change) due to having such rays be
> > shined——from the moving Earth——toward the (stationary) ether.  Or...
> > it was supposed to detect the DRAG on light due to the luminiferous
> > ether.  Before you wise-off about ANYTHING relative to M-M, please
> > realize that it was me who discovered that such experiment lacks the
> > require CONTROL.  And it was me who designed an X, Y, and Z
> > interferometer which easily detects Earth's motion in the Cosmos.
> > Einstein himself said: "If any Earth mounted instrument is capable of
> > detecting Earth's velocity, my theories are proved wrong."  So, by his
> > own words I disprove that moron!
>
> Since you have never demonstrated anything wrong with the MMX,
> you have done nothing. You claim to have done an experiment but
> you have shown nothing. You make all these silly claims and only
> look stupid.  Study some actual physics.
>
>
>
> > Two years or so ago when you read my post describing that the "Red
> > Shift" of more distant light sources is due to the AGING of light, NOT
> > to the expansion of the Universe—as might result from there having
> > been a Big Bang—you attacked me for "stealing" your idea.  After that,
> > I have humored you.  Now, you are getting way OUT of your league to
> > even comment regarding any of my NEW science truths.
>
> Ralph lies about his degrees, he lies about the experiments that
> have been done etc.  He is at your level of understanding so
> why should he not comment on your nonsense?
>
>
>
> > I feel sorry for anyone, like you, who hides behind purported degrees
> > as if your notions about anything are worth a damn.  Be it known: Your
> > notions aren't worth a damn.  You are just a one-notion, armchair,
> > science groupie whose ideas have long faded from viability.  ——
> > NoEinstein ——
>
> You getting testy today.  Are you beginning to realize that you
> have accomplished nothing?
>
>
>
>
>
> >>On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:57:46 -0800 (PST), NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>On Feb 3, 6:57 am, SolomonW <Solom...@nospamAustraliaMail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 00:22:31 -0800 (PST), Pentcho Valev wrote:
>
> >>>>>(2) The negative result of the Michelson-Morley experiment confirms
> >>>>>the hypothesis that the speed of light is independent of the speed of
> >>>>>the light source (the future 1905 light postulate of Einstein)
>
> >>>>Since we are in 1887, there is no hypothesis that the speed of light is
> >>>>independent of the speed of the light source.
>
> >>>>actually Michelson and Morley were quite stunned with their results and
> >>>>could not explain it.
>
> >>>Dear SolomonW:  M-M was a wrongly designed experiment which was
> >>>incapable of measuring the velocity of light or the velocity of
> >>>anything else.  
>
> >>This is crap. The MMX was a beautifully designed and performed experiment that
> >>had nothing whatsoever to do with measuring the speed of light.
> >>Its sole intention was to measure the speed of the earth through the then
> >>assumed absolute aether.
> >>Its results appeared to prove the nonexistence of the latter...but Lorentz and
> >>Fitzgerald got around that by suggesting that mass and time contracted on
> >>objects that were moving wrt the absolute aether. It was virtually impossible
> >>to disprove this theory.
>
> >>Ballistic theory explains the null result simply by stating that light moves at
> >>c wrt its source and everything at rest in the source frame. So all light moves
> >>around the MMX apparatus at the same speed c (wrt all components), irrespective
> >>of its orientation.
> >>Einstein fluked the same result, by claiming that light moves at c in any
> >>frame....and of course everything in the MMX IS at rest in the same frame.
>
> >>>Pentcho knows that Einstein was wrong.  But he keeps
> >>>insisting on making arguments which I have made outmoded.  M-M simply
> >>>lacked a CONTROL.  So, no "rubber rulers" and warped space-time are
> >>>needed to explain the nil results.  The following links should edify
> >>>THINKING people who aren’t infected with Einstein's Disease.  —
> >>>NoEinstein —
>
> >>You, unfortunately, lack both control and brains....
>
> >>Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
>
> >>www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm.
>
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Folks: Doug is a persona non grata to science, and to me in
particular.  :-}~ - - - !  NE
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Subject: Re: Interpreting the Michelson-Morley experiment in 1887
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