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Don Martin wrote:
> raven1<quoththeraven@nevermore.com>  wrote:
>> On 1/04/2012 8:46 AM, fasgnadh wrote:
>>> On 23/02/2012 4:23 PM, microm2011@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> It is common sense that science ought not be fighting innocent
>>>> people's beliefs.
>>>
>>> Science does not fight religion, atheism does, and atheism
>>> is not science, it's an ideology with one basic idea which in
>>> the 20th century killed over 80,000,000 people in the atheist
>>> regimes of Lenin, Stalin Mao and Pol Pot.. far more than any
>>> religion.
>>
>> Stop right there. "Atheism" doesn't do anything. Atheists do.

Ok, atheists killed over 80,000,000 people..   happy now?   B^p


>> Most atheists, BTW, would be happy to ignore religion as long as
 >> it isn't shoved in our faces.

Liar, >90% of traffic in alt.atheism ranges from endless WHINING
about religion to violent hate-speech against theists, and NONE of you
gutless moral defectives ever challenge any of it:


This is what dogmatic atheist ideologues respond with when they are 
simply wished Seasons Greetings:



# From: "John Fraser" <jfraser@ns.sympatico.ca>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Merry Christmas
# Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:21:03 -0400
# Message-ID: <4953abb6$1$5460$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net>
#
# Hello Folks;
#
#     I'd like to wish all of you a very Merry Christmas
#     and a safe holiday season.  Phil 4:8.
#
# Cheers,
# John



# From: Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.pentecostal,alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Merry Christmas
# Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:24:01 -0500
# Message-ID: <o07dl41sa4t4jhof3bmf0dog125nccmt4t@4ax.com>
#
# "go fuck yourself with your crucifix in a drill chuck'.

And this is the violent, psycho-sexual hate speech they SPEW OUT
without ANY provocation:


# From: Steve Knight <sknight51@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: A.A. BAAWA - FAQ
# Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1e4jbmlsqebu9j9b0a@4ax.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
#
# We kill theists and shit down their throats
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA

Not satisfied with murder, Steve favours GENOCIDE of every
Muslim man woman and child, just for believing in something
the Atheist thugs want to prohibit again, freedom of thought and belief;

# From: Steve Knight <sknight51@cox.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.religion.islam
# Subject: Re: Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
# Message-ID: <8t6ve5hs41qn3a2rv57fjcg60tufoa47pf@4ax.com>
# Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:18 -0800
#
# On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:22:32 +0200, "Katrina"
# <blondes_gaulloises@yahoo.com> wrote:
#
# >Islam: the perfect religion and way of life for all
#
# It is the most foul, disgusting filth on Earth.
# The sooner we nuke you fuckers, the better.
#
# Warlord Steve
# BAAWA

None of the atheists in USENET have the decency to even CRITICISE this
violent hate-filled leader of theirs, they fawn on the psychopathic prick!

Atheism is an EMPTY ideology, One Idea is all they can muster,
wrapped in jealousy and hate..  and that is why their most PROMINENT
spokes-Orcs advocate that they STEAL ideas from those who actually HAVE 
SOME.. the Theists!!!  Alain de Botton advises they steal the temples, 
the rituals, the charitable works, the ideals and practices.. ALL THE 
OUTWARD FORMS..  which was tried by the atheist regimes and other 
UTOPIAN ideologies in the 20th Century, all arrogantly casting notions 
of God aside, and they were CATASTROPHIC FAILURES, the greatest 
slaughter the world has ever seen...   Profit Dawkins, is even more 
insane..  he advocates that they STEAL GOD!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAA

Read and posts by his blind acolyte Vurgil for the details!     B^D

or GO WORSHIP YOUR ATHEIST SACRED COW with Bukakke:

# From: Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,
               alt.religion,alt.religion.christian
# Subject: Disapproving Creation:
# Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:23:40 -0800 (PST)
# Message-ID: 
<b5430732-e52e-45b5-abc3-7d0daa2535da@p13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>
#
#
#>  come worshiping at the altar of atheism,

>>> and atheism
>>> is not science, it's an ideology
>>
>> No, it isn't. Marxism-Leninism is an ideology.

That's your argument?

'atheism isn't an ideology because something else is'?   BWAHAHAHAHAHAA

   as if there can only be ONE?

That's simply idiotic!    B^D


>> a statement like the above indicates that

You don't know the definition of ideology:      B^)

ideology:  1: A system of ideas
                   eg  "There is no God"

            2:  The ideas and manner of thinking of a group,
                social class, or individual
                eg Theists or atheists or agnostics or rastafarians ..

So your claim that atheism is NOT an ideology is

>> incredibly stupid, incredibly dishonest, or simply barking mad.

   B^]

Almost as funny as your

"Atheism" doesn't do anything. Atheists do.     .. duh!

    yeah what they do, in EVERY murderous atheist tyranny is
     ATHEIST REPRESSION, terror torture and murder.. and the
    FORCED INDOCTRINATION of CHILDREN with **ATHEISM** the dead-end
    ideology of EVERY FAILED ATHEIST STATE, from Lenin, Stalin and Mao
    to Pol Pot and Kim ill Fuk!

"Science" doesn't do anything. Scientists do.  B^p

"Religion" doesn't do anything. Reople do.  M^p


>> pointless.


> Ayup.


(Now everyone can see why Ravin1 and all the other atheist drones fear 
to debate me.. because when they try they GET CREAMED by their own 
ILLOGICAL CLAPTRAP!    B^)

The other things to watch for whenever devious atheists post are:

- they snip the NG's posted to, to minimise their shame in front
   of a larger audience.. look and DonH's NG header, then Ravin1's then
   my original, to see their courage shring at the same rate as their
   testicles!  ATHEISTS FEAR TRUTH, and want to hide their dirty deeds.

- watch for post fraud.. you can find countless examples where they
   simply FABRICATE text and attribute it to the poster they are
   slandering and villifying..  and they are PROUD of their intellectual
   dishonesty and moral depravity.  Look in the Google Groups archive
   for the strings  "fixed it"  "for you" to see them  BRAGGING about
   their ONLY feeble tactic  ...  BARE FACED LIES!   B^[

   Atheists are the most gutless cowardly, dishonest frauds I have
   ever had the misfortune to encounter, except of course the Kook-
   Suckers who live entirely in a world of self-delusion about their
   own relevance.    B^p


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The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it,
including all the ones who eagerly embraced Dawkin's
even more enthusiastic endorsement of atheist Gods he claims
'came into being'(sic)

 From his book Launch:

"A few years ago it struck me that there is a resource
that is a provider of Wisdom, and consolation,
and an ethical framework, and it's rather fascinating and
has dominated the mental landscape of human beings for thousands of years
I'm thinking, of course, of religion.

And the problem is, I'm an atheist."

    Yes, that's certainly a problem for any atheist!   B^D

    or for anyone living in any of the atheist regimes they ran! B^[

"Not just a bit of an atheist, I really am an atheist."

    You make it sound like you expect people not to believe atheists!

    B^D

"So, this doesn't, in a way, make me an ideal cantidate to write
about religion, but at some point it did strike me that religions
cannot be, in the words of Christopher Hitchins, "the source of
the poison of everything", it's implausible, they've been around
for thousands of years, they reflect the collaborative intelligences
and sensitivities of millions of people and the idea that everything
to do with them is false and wicked just didn't start to stand up to
the scrutiny I applied to it, as I thought more about the subject.

So, that's really the fruit of my thinking"


    That religion is really the source of so so many good and useful
    contributions to civilisation that Hitchin's malicious lies just
    don't stand up..  8^o  and as atheism is devoid of anything
    worthwhile itself, it needs to STEAL some of the many great ideas
    religion has to offer:


" my new book,Religion for Atheists is a deliberate attempt
   to look at a number of areas where I believe that religions
   have things to offer for non-believers"

Sure,  Truth, Love, Compassion, Justice, Sincerity, Charity,
        Mercy, Courage, Integrity..
        all the virtues atheism lacks, and doesn't even understand, all
        the spiritual values that atheists reject completely...


# From: Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net>
# Newsgroups: 
alt.atheism,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,alt.agnosticism
# Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:38:16 -0800 (PST)
# Message-ID: 
<bfcf3a9d-9711-449a-b126-3a1c60146182@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
#
# You can keep your spiritual values.
# I'll piss on them and pass on them.
#
# Budikka



" ..and perhaps believers know about these things already,
     but for non-believers I wanted to look at that."

"It strikes me that at the moment the world is really divided into
believers and non-believers and the debate has become at times very
fierce, there are people, some of whom live in North Oxford who
have suggested not only that religion is unbelievable but also
that it's ridiculous, and that people who believe in anything are
simpletons, maniacs  .. people who must be lectured at, to remove
the folly of their intellectual errors."


    We all know the "person from North Oxford" he's criticising for
    being such an arrogant, rabid demagogue with extreme views, is
    Richard Dawkins            B^]

"That's not really my approach, I think such an approach is sterile,
I don't think one makes progress"

    True, Dawkins extreme militancy and all the money spent on Bus
    ad lies to proselytise for new atheist converts never worked!

"It doesn't strike me that this is really a productive way
to go forward."

    Mate, I have been telling the dimwitted Dawkinite Drones that
    for YEARS now!   But they are completely blind to reason!  B^D

" How do you live a good life outside of a religious structure?

    Well that's silly, when the good life you want to emulate
    exists WITHIN that moral framework and claims that the SPIRITUAL
    values are what brings life to the attempts at self-transformation!

    It's like you want the Light from a lightbulb, using only
    the physical MATTER, not invisible, electromagnetic ENERGY!  B^D

    It's been tried in EVERY atheist state and failed!   B^]

    How can these atheist 'thinkers' be so dumb?

"This is THE question facing modern society, and we haven't
necessarily answered it that well."

    You atheists have NEVER answered it, B^D  but the majority
    religious societies that you want to emulate clearly have!   B^]

"I think it's a legitimate question and my book is an
attempt to answer that question."

    Sure, the hilarious part is that you think atheism needs
    to copy religion ...because it HAS the answer already!!!!

            BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!

    Just what Dawkins, Bukakke, Vurgil and all the other
    ex-atheist believers are trying to do!    ;-)

    Except, THEY are copying the BELIEFs in Supernatural Beings,
    i.e. they are FABRICATING GODS to WORSHIP!  (Just
    like every atheist tyranny tried to do with political cultism ;-)

     Whereas De Botton wants to steal the PRAXIS of religion:    B^D

"My starting point is to say that we should learn to STEAL from
religions."

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAA!

    Priceless!   The starting point for Atheist 'philosophy' is
    that having no ideas of their own the unoriginal atheists
    need to pinch the ideas of the, more successful, religious!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA




"you know some people have accused me of advocating a
'pick and mix'approach to religions, and I say you know what?
you're absolutely right, that's completely what I'm doing,
a pick and mix approach.

Some people have said  'religion's are not a buffet, from which
you can go round choosing the best bits', and my answer is yes they are.
And that's precidsely what I'm doing.  So i've taken my plate,
and I've gone round the different faiths, and I've done precisely that."

     -  Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
                         The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne  19/3/2012


http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

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      -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

   "We must combat religion"
       -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

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   the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
      - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

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