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On 30 Sep., 05:22, va...@icmf.inf.cu wrote:
> On 29 sep, 16:35, Loui...@edu.herlufsholm.dk wrote:
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> > On 29 Sep., 02:57, va...@icmf.inf.cu wrote:
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> > > Exactly 102 years ago (1905 September 27) Einstein wrote a very short
> > > paper. Einstein starts referring to a body at rest with energy E. I
> > > want to know what kind of energy is that E. Being the body at rest,
> > > the kinetic energy is excluded. Then, what other kind of energy a body
> > > at rest can have in 1905?
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> > > RVHG (Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato)
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> > Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato, please read the following. You are welcome
> > with your comments.
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> > Interpretation of E = m*c^2 as kinetic energies of sub-particles.
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> > By Louis Nielsen, Treatise:http://www.rostra.dk/louis
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> > What is the physical interpretation of Einstein's equation E = m*c^2
> > where E is the latent energy inside a portion of matter with the mass
> > m and where c is the velocity of light?
>
> > In my treatise I show that m*c^2 is equal to the total kinetic
> > energies of the sub-particles I call Unitons and of which all matter
> > consists.
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> > My Uniton Postulate:
> > The unitons are the smallest and most fundamental energy-/matter
> > quanta in the Universe.
> > All matter consists of unitons and all interactions in the Universe
> > are consequences of interacting unitons.
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> > In my treatise I show that the total internal latent energy E inside a
> > given amount of matter with mass m is given by E = m*c^2 where c is
> > the velocity of light. And the expression m*c^2 is a measure of the
> > TOTAL KINETIC ENERGY OF THE UNITONS of which the matter consists.
> > Kinetic energy is the most fundamental form of energy.
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> > By the above recognition of our physical world it is not difficult to
> > understand that all matter,
> > regardless of its chemical appearance contains energy as given by
> > Einstein's famous equation.
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> > Read more in section 13 and section 14 of my treatise:  http://www.rostra.dk/louis
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> > Best regards
> > Louis Nielsen
> > Denmark
>
> Hello Louis, nice to know about you. For many years a file with your
> name had been part of my computer information. As you know, Internet
> is full of materials like yours. Even being my interest to know about
> new ideas, it is almost impossible for me (or anyone) to follow all of
> them. But surely I will read a little more about your work in the near
> future.
> About this thread, I am involved (already by some years) analysing
> 1905 Einstein's papers, finding that the today interpretation of them
> doesn't correspond exactly to the epoch knowledge when they were
> written. The more relevant example is the energy E of a body at rest.
> In 1905, a body at rest considered as a whole entity can has only
> potential energy U, having its kinetic energy K the value zero and
> being his total energy E equal to its potential energy U. We have E=K
> +U, the expression for the Principle of Energy Conservation known in
> the epoch and used by Einstein in his 1905 Sep 27 paper. You can
> obtain a version of it at
>
> Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy-content?http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/
>
> With the notation used in the above link, we can read in the paper the
> formula
> H-E=K+C (or H=K+(E+C)), where H is total energy in the system S' where
> the body is moving with v velocity and Kinetic Energy K, being C an
> arbitrary additive constant (characteristic of potential energies, as
> is well-known). Even then notice how no one had answered yet my
> question about what kind of energy is E, included persons that know
> very well what my intention is.
>
> What is the problem? That today E is recognized only as "rest energy",
> a body constant and intrinsic attribute, with no relation at all with
> potential energies. But the "rest energy" concept doesn't exist yet in
> 1905, it is precisely the new concept developed in the paper we are
> analysing! Then, has no sense at all to say that when Einstein writes
> the energy E of a body at rest, he is referring to "rest energy". The
> unique valid interpretation for the kind of energy E is the potential
> one, even if Einstein doesn't use the word "potential" in his paper.
> The management by Einstein of {the arbitrary additive constants of the
> energies H and E} (using his own words between { }), is more than
> sufficient to support this approach. In all Physics history the
> potential is the unique kind of energy with an associated arbitrary
> additive constant. As an added very important point, {The mass of a
> body is a measure of its energy-content} implies  that energy has no
> more an arbitrary additive constant, because mass hasn't it. Then,
> Einstein discovers an absolute and total potential energy measured by
> the rest mass, corresponding to the energy of ALL force fields that
> can be present, known or not.
>
> By the way, your Uniton Postulate seems to be compatible with all of
> this, because the universal relationship between mass and energy
> discovered by Einstein is totally independent of any internal body
> property, as Einstein points in his paper. The "external" energy of
> the fields associated with the body and the "internal" energy of the
> rest body seems to be one and the same thing.
>
> Sincerily yours
> RVHG (Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato)
> Institute of Cybernetics, Mathematics and Physics (ICIMAF)
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Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato,
Thank you for your comments and the link to Einstein's article from
1905.

What are your comments to the following considerations and
calculations:

The Cosmic Embryoton
The first Cosmic Quantum-process
Derivation of the equation E = M*c^2

By Louis Nielsen, Denmark

Treatise:   http://www.rostra.dk/louis

THE POSTULATE OF THE COSMIC EMBRYOTON.
The Universe with all its matter, motions and interactions has been
developed from ONE primordial matter-quantum with a primordial mass M
equal to the total mass of the Universe and a primordial extension d
which define the quantum of length - the cosmic space-atom.
The primordial first 'particle' in the Universe I had given the name
'The Cosmic Embryoton'.

THE SPACE-ATOM AND THE TIME-ATOM.
THE VELOCITY OF LIGHT.
The Universe came into active existence when the cosmic embryoton had
separate into two scale-invariant matter-/energy-quanta with masses (M/
2). These first two active matter-/energy-quanta I call the
'Primordial Unitons'. Each of the unitons had an extension d equal to
the quantum of length and each of them had been accelerated up to the
velocity of light c.

The first cosmic quantum-process which is the first cosmic change in
the embryonic Universe defines the first cosmic quantum of time, the
'time-atom' t.
The velocity of light c is given by the ratio between the 'space-atom'
d and the 'time-atom' t:

(1)  c = d/t

As d and t are cosmic absolute and invariant quantities we see that c
also is a cosmic invariant quatity.

THE UNIT-QUANTA OF THE UNIVERSE.
The two primordial Unitons disintegrate into more and more scale-
invariant unitons that are spreading out in an active and expanding
Universe.
The quantum-evolution of the Universe can be described by a 'Cosmic
Evolution Quantum Number' which is 'ticking' up through the natural
numbers. (Please study my treatise)
The actual value of the 'Cosmic Evolution Quantum Number' is equal to
the actual total number of created unitons.
In our epoch the Universe consists of about 7*10^127 unitons.

THE PRIMORDIAL COSMIC QUANTUM-WORK.
The total cosmic embryonic physical work W(cosmic) done when the
cosmic embryoton separate into two primordial unitons is equal to the
total kinetic energy E(kin) of the evolving Universe.
A simple calculation, based on Newtonian physics, show that the total
kinetic energy E(kin) of the Universe is given by E(kin) = M*c^2 where
M is the total mass of the Universe and c is the velocity of light.

The calculations:
Each of the two primordial unitons with masses (M/2) is acted by a
force F applied over a distance d equal to the quantum of length.
The magnitude of the force F is given by the second law of Newton:

(2)  F = (M/2)*a = (M/2)* (c/t)

In equation (2) a = c/t is the acceleration of the primordial unitons,
the greatest possible acceleration in the Universe.
The force F is the maximum magnitude of a force in the Universe and it
can be regarded as a Quantum-force.

The total cosmic embryonic work W(cosmic) is equal to the released
total kinetic energy E(kin) given by:

(3)  W(cosmic) = 2*(F*d) = 2*(M/2)*(c/t)*d = M*c^2 = E(kin)

The total primordial released kinetic energy E(kin) is thus given
by:

(4)  E(kin) = M*c^2

We see that equation (4) has the same form as the energy-/mass
equation that Albert Einstein derived in 1905 and that the M*c^2
represents kinetic energy.
The derivation of equation (4) is based on the first cosmic quantum-
proces when the Universe came into active existence!

You can study more in my treatise:
 http://www.rostra.dk/louis

Best regards
Louis Nielsen
Denmark