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Article #266Re: How would we know Herbert Dingle was right or wrong?
From: Tom Roberts
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:19
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:19
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On 1/25/12 1/25/12 1:10 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote: > On Jan 25, 6:31 am, Tom Roberts<tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in > sci.physics.relativity: >> The question is not whether Dingle was wrong, but rather, whether SR is valid. >> For an incredibly wide domain we know that SR is indeed valid, because of the >> literally hundreds of experimental tests it has passed: >> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html >> Of course knowing that SR is valid implies that Dingle was wrong. > > "Hundreds of experimental tests" are impossible to deal with in a > debate, Your problem, not mine. And this is not really a debate. > Let us concentrate on the crucial one: > The Michelson-Morley experiment (MMX) [...] > > Now the truth: In 1887 the Michelson-Morley experiment UNEQUIVOCALLY > confirmed the assumption that the speed of light of light does vary > with the speed of the light source, [...] This is NOT any sort of "truth". The MMX did no such thing. The MMX showed that for their interferometer, no significant fringe shift is seen. That is ALL THAT IT DID, and this has been confirmed in many repetitions. That result is in agreement with the prediction of SR, and with the predictions of several other theories, including emission and ballistic theories such as Newton's. So this is not a "crucial" experiment at all, because by itself it is insufficient to distinguish among many different theories -- you MUST look at multiple experiments. [When one looks at all of the experiments, SR remains unrefuted within its domain, as does an infinite class of theories in which the round-trip speed of light is isotropically c in every inertial frame. No emission or ballistic theory of light is among them.] None of your quotations are actually relevant. You REALLY need to learn how to read, and to understand what you read. Tom Roberts
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