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Article #278Re: speed of light independent of source speed question
From: bert
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:12
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 14:12
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On Sep 2, 2:09 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Sep 1, 10:57 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in > sci.physics.relativity: > > > Note also that theoretical physics is not a mere guessing game in which > > arbitrary notions can be combined. The geometric structure of the universe is > > highly constrained, and SR is the only local structure that is not already > > refuted. This requires that anything moving with speed c relative to one > > inertial frame moves with speed c relative to any other frame. (Here c is the > > invariant speed of the Lorentz transform, but experiments show that to high > > accuracy light travels in vacuum with that speed.) > > > Tom Roberts > > You forget to add something extremely important, Honest Roberts: Even > if "light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant speed of the > Lorentz transform", Divine Albert's Divine Special Relativity "would > be unaffected" and "today's foundations of modern physics would not be > threatened": > > http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/dc1ebdf49c01... > Tom Roberts: "If it is ultimately discovered that the photon has a > nonzero mass (i.e. light in vacuum does not travel at the invariant > speed of the Lorentz transform), SR would be unaffected but both > Maxwell's equations and QED would be refuted (or rather, their domains > of applicability would be reduced)." > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.research/msg/44d3ebf3b94d89ad > Tom Roberts: "As I said before, Special Relativity would not be > affected by a non-zero photon mass, as Einstein's second postulate is > not required in a modern derivation (using group theory one obtains > three related theories, two of which are solidly refuted > experimentally and the third is SR). So today's foundations of modern > physics would not be threatened." > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com Lab. here in Massachusetts has light slowed to 3 mph as it goes through very cold sodium. That is BS. Photons never slow down,nor do they bounce. They leave their source and enter their source at one set speed. Never change their speed,but change only the distance. Get the picture TreBert
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