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Re: TWEAKING THE BIG BANG MODEL FOREVER

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 04:28
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Dark energy is an idiocy that does not work so Einsteinians are
looking for an even greater idiocy:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627643.500-did-a-sleeper-field-awake-to-expand-the-universe.html
New Scientist: "In the late 1990s, observations of supernovae revealed
that the universe has started expanding faster and faster over the
past few billion years. Einstein's equations of general relativity
provide a mechanism for this phenomenon, in the form of the
cosmological constant, also known as the inherent "dark energy" of
space-time. If this constant has a small positive value, then it
causes space-time to expand at an ever-increasing rate. However,
theoretical calculations of the constant and the observed value are
out of whack by about 120 orders of magnitude. To overcome this
daunting discrepancy, physicists have resorted to other explanations
for the recent cosmic acceleration. One explanation is the idea that
space-time is suffused with a field called quintessence. This field is
scalar, meaning that at any given point in space-time it has a value,
but no direction. Einstein's equations show that in the presence of a
scalar field that changes very slowly, space-time will expand at an
ever-increasing rate."

Pentcho Valev wrote:

http://cosmologystatement.org/
An Open Letter to the Scientific Community
(Published in New Scientist, May 22, 2004)
"The big bang today relies on a growing number of hypothetical
entities, things that we have never observed-- inflation, dark matter
and dark energy are the most prominent examples. Without them, there
would be a fatal contradiction between the observations made by
astronomers and the predictions of the big bang theory. In no other
field of physics would this continual recourse to new hypothetical
objects be accepted as a way of bridging the gap between theory and
observation. It would, at the least, raise serious questions about the
validity of the underlying theory."

Why are all those rebels silent now? Perhaps, like Mr. Praline, they
have realized that proving that dead science is dead is just as silly
as proving that dead science is alive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218
Owner: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Blue...What's,uh...What's wrong
with it?
Mr. Praline: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead,
that's what's wrong with it!
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Mr. Praline: Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm
looking at one right now.
Owner: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the
Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
........................
Mr. Praline: No, I'm sorry! I'm not prepared to pursue my line of
inquiry any longer as I think this is getting too silly!

University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Professor David A.
Plaisted is going to stop tweaking the Big Bang Model but is still
being misled by red herrings (if there is A DECREASE IN THE SPEED OF
LIGHT, the question of whether it occurs "through discrete levels" is
a red herring):

http://www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/ce/redshift.html
David A. Plaisted: "The fact that red shifts appear to be quantized
has interesting implications for the study of the universe. This
suggests that the red shift may be caused by something other than the
expansion of the universe, at least in part. This could be a loss of
energy of light rays as they travel, or A DECREASE IN THE SPEED OF
LIGHT through discrete levels. Maybe there is some other
explanation."

http://www.physorg.com/news4999.html
"The widely accepted idea that the universe began with a Big Bang
could be wrong, according to astrophysicists who took part in a
"Crisis in cosmology" meeting in Portugal and reported in this month's
Physics World magazine. According to the standard Big Bang theory, the
universe began in a hot dense fireball about 13 billion years ago and
has been expanding ever since. But despite plenty of evidence to
support the theory, not everyone is convinced. Eric Lerner of
Lawrenceville Plasma Physics, who organized the Portuguese meeting,
says that certain properties of the cosmic microwave background - the
so-called "echo of the Big Bang" - do not match predictions from the
theory. Others are unhappy that cosmologists have had to introduce
weird concepts like dark matter and dark energy to explain the
universe. Mainstream scientists, however, have hit back, saying that
we just need to tweak the Big Bang model and tie up "loose ends"."

Mainstream scientists are going to tweak the Big Bang model forever
because this brings billions:

http://www.physorg.com/news179508040.html
"More than a dozen ground-based Dark Energy projects are proposed or
under way, and at least four space-based missions, each of the order
of a billion dollars, are at the design concept stage."

Billions also force mainstream scientists to ignore and eventually
suppress any alternative idea, although in moments of aberration they
admit: "We have a complete inventory of the universe," Sean Carroll, a
California Institute of Technology cosmologist, has said, "and it
makes no sense."

http://www.sciscoop.com/2008/10
"Does the apparently constant speed of light change over the vast
stretches of the universe? Would our understanding of black holes,
ancient supernovae, dark matter, dark energy, the origins of the
universe and its ultimate fate be different if the speed of light were
not constant?.....Couldn't it be that the supposed vacuum of space is
acting as an interstellar medium to lower the speed of light like some
cosmic swimming pool? If so, wouldn't a stick plunged into the pool
appear bent as the light is refracted and won't that affect all our
observations about the universe. I asked theoretical physicist Leonard
Susskind, author of The Black Hole War, recently reviewed in Science
Books to explain this apparent anomaly....."You are entirely right,"
he told me, "there are all sorts of effects on the propagation of
light that astronomers and astrophysicists must account for. The point
of course is that they (not me) do take these effects into account and
correct for them." "In a way this work is very heroic but unheralded,"
adds Susskind, "An immense amount of extremely brilliant analysis has
gone into the detailed corrections that are needed to eliminate these
'spurious' effects so that people like me can just say 'light travels
with the speed of light.' So, there you have it. My concern about
cosmic swimming pools and bent sticks does indeed apply, but
physicists have taken the deviations into account so that other
physicists, such as Susskind, who once proved Stephen Hawking wrong,
can battle their way to a better understanding of the universe."

http://www.springerlink.com/content/w6777w07xn737590/fulltext.pdf
Astrophys Space Sci (2009) 323: 205211
Misconceptions about the Hubble recession law
Wilfred H. Sorrell
"The question is this: Do astronomical observations necessarily
support the idea of an expanding universe? Almost all cosmologists
believe as sacrosanct that the Hubble recession law was directly
inferred from astronomical observations. As this belief might be ill-
founded... (...) It turns out that the Hubble recession law was not
directly inferred from astronomical observations. The Hubble recession
law was directly inferred from the ad hoc assumption that the observed
spectroscopic redshifts of distant galaxies may be interpreted as
ordinary Doppler shifts. The observational techniques used by Hubble
led to the empirical discovery of a linear dependence of redshift on
distance. Based upon these historical considerations, the first
conclusion of the present study is that astronomical evidence in favor
of an expanding universe is circumstantial at best. The past eight
decades of astronomical observations do not necessarily support the
idea of an expanding universe. (...) Reber (1982) made the interesting
point that Edwin Hubble was not a promoter of the expanding universe
idea. Some personal communications from Hubble reveal that he thought
a model universe based upon the tired-light hypothesis is more simple
and less irrational than a model universe based upon an expanding
space-time geometry. The second conclusion of the present study is
that the model Hubble diagram for a static (tired-light) cosmology
gives a good fit to the Type Ia supernova data shown in Fig. 2. This
observational test of a static (tired-light) cosmology model also
proves that it is wholly possible to explain the supernovae data
without requiring any flat Friedmann model universe undergoing
acceleration."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,757145,00.html
Monday, Dec. 14, 1936: "Other causes for the redshift were suggested,
such as cosmic dust or a change in the nature of light over great
stretches of space. Two years ago Dr. Hubble admitted that the
expanding universe might be an illusion, but implied that this was a
cautious and colorless view. Last week it was apparent that he had
shifted his position even further away from a literal interpretation
of the redshift, that he now regards the expanding universe as more
improbable than a non-expanding one."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/science/26essay.html
"The worrying continued. Lawrence Krauss, a cosmologist from Arizona
State, said that most theories were wrong. "We get the notions they
are right because we keep talking about them," he said. Not only are
most theories wrong, he said, but most data are also wrong..."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/6057362/Give-scientists-the-freedom-to-be-wrong.html
Martin Rees: "Over the past week, two stories in the press have
suggested that scientists have been very wrong about some very big
issues. First, a new paper seemed to suggest that dark energy the
mysterious force that makes up three quarters of the universe, and is
pushing the galaxies further apart might not even exist."

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/87150187.html
"Dark Energy: The Biggest Mystery in the Universe (...) "We have a
complete inventory of the universe," Sean Carroll, a California
Institute of Technology cosmologist, has said, "and it makes no
sense."

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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