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Article #519Re: HOW EINSTEIN USED MAXWELL
From: PD
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 22:15
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 22:15
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On May 6, 5:02 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:10:23 -0700 (PDT), PD <thedraperfam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On May 5, 11:47 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: > >> On Wed, 05 May 2010 08:54:13 -0500, Marvin the Martian <mar...@ontomars.org> > >> wrote: > > >> >I don't know where you three idiots get that, but no. > > >> >Maxwell's equations are only invariant under the Lorentz transformation, > >> >and that preserves the speed of light regardless of the speed of the > >> >observer. > > >> >But then, I shouldn't be wasting my time with physics ignoramuses who > >> >don't know lower division undergrad physics. (Okay, with things the way > >> >they are, it may now be UPPER division undergrad physics...) > > >> There is no aether and no Lorentz transforms you dopey bastard. > >> Light is ballistic. Einstein's theory is crap. > > >Well, let's see. > >Lorentz transforms are mathematical relations between coordinates. > >When you write them down on a piece of paper, they exist. > >Maxwell's equations superbly describe measured electrodynamics outside > >the quantum realm. > >It is easy to show the invariance of Maxwell's equations under the > >Lorentz transforms with some lines of algebra on a piece of paper. > > Duh! So what? So.... you just said they don't exist. > > >Once it's written down, it's pretty hard to deny that the > >demonstration has been done. > > >Unless, of course, you clamp your eyes shut and mutter, "No-no-no-no- > >no. I won't look and you can't make me. I *deny* your reality and > >substitute my own." > > Maxwell's equations provide a way to measure the value of the universal > constant c. They do that by measuring properties of electric and magnetic > fields set up in various apparatus. Uh-huh. You apparently don't have any idea what Maxwell's equations do. Say you want to know the charge distribution on a metal fork after you've stuck it in the light socket. (Try it.) You know what will tell you that? Maxwell's equations. Say you want to know how much current you will need to drive a toroidal electromagnet to ferric saturation. You know what will tell you that? Maxwell's equations. Say you want to know how to design an antenna to transmit your bootleg all-porn FM channel. You know what will tell you that? Maxwell's equations. Say you want to design a parallel plate capacitor with pudding as a dielectric. You know what will tell you that? I think you get the idea. > 'c' also happens to represent the magnitude of light's speed wrt its source. > Light moves at c+v wrt an observer moving at -v wrt its source. > > Empty space (completely devoid of fields) has NO e or mu. Maxwell's equations > are not relevant there. You haven't said how to generate what YOU call empty space. I presume it is also devoid of angels and ectoplasm. > > Henry Wilson... > > .......A relativist's IQ = his snipping ability.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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