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Article #5304Re: VERY DIFFICULT DEDUCTIONS IN EINSTEIN ZOMBIE WORLD
From: PD
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:51
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:51
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On Mar 30, 12:28 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > A rocket with length h accelerates with acceleration g. A light source > at the front end emits light with speed c relative to the source. A > receiver at the back end receives the light and measures its speed c' > to be: > > Premise 1: constant, c'=c. > > Premise 2: variable, c'=c+v, where v is the relative speed of the > light source (at the moment of emission) and the receiver (at the > moment of reception). > > A light source at the top of a tower of height h emits light with > speed c relative to the source. A receiver on the ground receives the > light. > > Prediction 1 deduced from Premise 1: The receiver on the ground will > measure the speed of light to be constant, c'=c. Not quite right. The receiver on the ground will measure the speed of light to be constant, c'=c, AND the receiver will also measure the gravitational redshift factor to be 1 + gh/c^2. Both of these statements are confirmed by experiment, and both of those statements are consistent with GR as published in 1915. Einstein did not formulate the *correct* theory of GR until 1915. Work beyond SR and prior to 1911 contained a number of statements that were later corrected by himself. It is not unusual in science for an author to publish "work in progress" which later gets corrected. > > Prediction 2 deduced from Premise 2: The receiver on the ground will > measure the speed of light to be variable, c'=c(1+gh/c^2), an equation > Einstein deduced in 1911. The receiver will also measure the > gravitational redshift factor to be 1+gh/c^2, a value predicted by > Einstein and confirmed experimentally by Pound and Rebka in 1960. > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com
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