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Article #5439Re: relativity, anger, swearing
From: Artful
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:18
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 23:18
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"Dead Paul" <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote in message news:fqfafs$4cq$2@news.datemas.de... > On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 08:27:51 +1100, Artful wrote: > >> "Dead Paul" <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote in message >> news:fqevdl$lc7$1@news.datemas.de... >>> On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:55:35 -0800, Pentcho Valev wrote: >>> >>>> On Mar 2, 4:24 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> On Mar 2, 8:20 am, steve O <steve.g.oa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > My first posting to this group - may be my last :-) Why is there so >>>>> > much anger on this group when the subject is physics ? If some >>>>> > physics is 'wrong' then it will soon be found out by someone doing >>>>> > an experiment ? >>>>> > Swearing at others or getting so emotional is not going to convince >>>>> > anyone ? >>>>> > If engineers are compensating for GR and SR time dilation in the GPS >>>>> > satellite positioning system then relativity must have something >>>>> > going for it - the reason I say this is because many engineers have >>>>> > been extremely sceptical about SR over the years but they now >>>>> > embrace it. For all those people who can't accept the results of >>>>> > relativity - can they point to some prediction that has been shown >>>>> > to be false by experiment ? >>>>> >>>>> Sure, that's easy. The anti-relativists point to any experimental test >>>>> and say "they're lying, obviously the real result disproved >>>>> relativity" or "I'll bet they never even performed that experiment". >>>>> >>>>> Ta-da, relativity disproved! >>>>> >>>>> - Randy >>>> >>>> Randy Randy things are simpler than that. You consider for instance the >>>> Pound-Rebka result >>> >>> Very good but you do not even need to do that. One of the foundations of >>> SR is relativity of simultaneity - it is false, so SR collapses. >>> Similarly with GR, the equivalence principle is known to be false also >>> thus GR collapses. >> >> Prove it > > I shall make quite it clear (why relativity of simultaneity and the > equivalence principle are false) on a web page in the near future. Yeah .. whatever you think. You alone have the true understanding of physics that has eluded tens of thousands of actual physicists over the last century who all got it wrong. You're just another crackpot .. and your web page will be a monumental waste of everybody's time including your own. Invest it instead in learning some physics.
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