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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 08:27:51 +1100, Artful wrote:

> "Dead Paul" <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote in message
> news:fqevdl$lc7$1@news.datemas.de...
>> On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:55:35 -0800, Pentcho Valev wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 2, 4:24 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mar 2, 8:20 am, steve O <steve.g.oa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > My first posting to this group - may be my last :-) Why is there so
>>>> > much anger on this group when the subject is physics ? If some
>>>> > physics is 'wrong' then it will soon be found out by someone doing
>>>> > an experiment ?
>>>> > Swearing at others or getting so emotional is not going to convince
>>>> > anyone ?
>>>> > If engineers are compensating for GR and SR time dilation in the GPS
>>>> > satellite positioning system then relativity must have something
>>>> > going for it - the reason I say this is because many engineers have
>>>> > been extremely sceptical about SR over the years but they now
>>>> > embrace it. For all those people who can't accept the results of
>>>> > relativity - can they point to some prediction that has been shown
>>>> > to be false by experiment ?
>>>>
>>>> Sure, that's easy. The anti-relativists point to any experimental test
>>>> and say "they're lying, obviously the real result disproved
>>>> relativity" or "I'll bet they never even performed that experiment".
>>>>
>>>> Ta-da, relativity disproved!
>>>>
>>>> - Randy
>>>
>>> Randy Randy things are simpler than that. You consider for instance the
>>> Pound-Rebka result
>>
>> Very good but you do not even need to do that. One of the foundations of
>> SR is relativity of simultaneity - it is false, so SR collapses.
>> Similarly with GR, the equivalence principle is known to be false also
>> thus GR collapses.
> 
> Prove it

I shall make quite it clear (why relativity of simultaneity and the
equivalence principle are false) on a web page in the near future.


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