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Re: relativity, anger, swearing

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From: Artful
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:27
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"Dead Paul" <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:55:35 -0800, Pentcho Valev wrote:
>
>> On Mar 2, 4:24 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Mar 2, 8:20 am, steve O <steve.g.oa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > My first posting to this group - may be my last :-) Why is there so
>>> > much anger on this group when the subject is physics ? If some physics
>>> > is 'wrong' then it will soon be found out by someone doing an
>>> > experiment ?
>>> > Swearing at others or getting so emotional is not going to convince
>>> > anyone ?
>>> > If engineers are compensating for GR and SR time dilation in the GPS
>>> > satellite positioning system then relativity must have something going
>>> > for it - the reason I say this is because many engineers have been
>>> > extremely sceptical about SR over the years but they now embrace it.
>>> > For all those people who can't accept the results of relativity - can
>>> > they point to some prediction that has been shown to be false by
>>> > experiment ?
>>>
>>> Sure, that's easy. The anti-relativists point to any experimental test
>>> and say "they're lying, obviously the real result disproved relativity"
>>> or "I'll bet they never even performed that experiment".
>>>
>>> Ta-da, relativity disproved!
>>>
>>> - Randy
>>
>> Randy Randy things are simpler than that. You consider for instance the
>> Pound-Rebka result
>
> Very good but you do not even need to do that. One of the foundations of
> SR is relativity of simultaneity - it is false, so SR collapses. Similarly
> with GR, the equivalence principle is known to be false also thus GR
> collapses.

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Subject: Re: relativity, anger, swearing
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