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Article #5437Re: relativity, anger, swearing
From: Artful
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:27
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:27
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"Dead Paul" <dead_paul@no.reply> wrote in message news:fqevdl$lc7$1@news.datemas.de... > On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:55:35 -0800, Pentcho Valev wrote: > >> On Mar 2, 4:24 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> On Mar 2, 8:20 am, steve O <steve.g.oa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > My first posting to this group - may be my last :-) Why is there so >>> > much anger on this group when the subject is physics ? If some physics >>> > is 'wrong' then it will soon be found out by someone doing an >>> > experiment ? >>> > Swearing at others or getting so emotional is not going to convince >>> > anyone ? >>> > If engineers are compensating for GR and SR time dilation in the GPS >>> > satellite positioning system then relativity must have something going >>> > for it - the reason I say this is because many engineers have been >>> > extremely sceptical about SR over the years but they now embrace it. >>> > For all those people who can't accept the results of relativity - can >>> > they point to some prediction that has been shown to be false by >>> > experiment ? >>> >>> Sure, that's easy. The anti-relativists point to any experimental test >>> and say "they're lying, obviously the real result disproved relativity" >>> or "I'll bet they never even performed that experiment". >>> >>> Ta-da, relativity disproved! >>> >>> - Randy >> >> Randy Randy things are simpler than that. You consider for instance the >> Pound-Rebka result > > Very good but you do not even need to do that. One of the foundations of > SR is relativity of simultaneity - it is false, so SR collapses. Similarly > with GR, the equivalence principle is known to be false also thus GR > collapses. Prove it
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