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Re: relativity, anger, swearing

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From: Dead Paul
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:33
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:55:35 -0800, Pentcho Valev wrote:

> On Mar 2, 4:24 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 2, 8:20 am, steve O <steve.g.oa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > My first posting to this group - may be my last :-) Why is there so
>> > much anger on this group when the subject is physics ? If some physics
>> > is 'wrong' then it will soon be found out by someone doing an
>> > experiment ?
>> > Swearing at others or getting so emotional is not going to convince
>> > anyone ?
>> > If engineers are compensating for GR and SR time dilation in the GPS
>> > satellite positioning system then relativity must have something going
>> > for it - the reason I say this is because many engineers have been
>> > extremely sceptical about SR over the years but they now embrace it.
>> > For all those people who can't accept the results of relativity - can
>> > they point to some prediction that has been shown to be false by
>> > experiment ?
>>
>> Sure, that's easy. The anti-relativists point to any experimental test
>> and say "they're lying, obviously the real result disproved relativity"
>> or "I'll bet they never even performed that experiment".
>>
>> Ta-da, relativity disproved!
>>
>>          - Randy
> 
> Randy Randy things are simpler than that. You consider for instance the
> Pound-Rebka result

Very good but you do not even need to do that. One of the foundations of
SR is relativity of simultaneity - it is false, so SR collapses. Similarly
with GR, the equivalence principle is known to be false also thus GR
collapses.


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Subject: Re: relativity, anger, swearing
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