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Article #5435Re: relativity, anger, swearing
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:55
Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:55
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On Mar 2, 4:24 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Mar 2, 8:20 am, steve O <steve.g.oa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > My first posting to this group - may be my last :-) > > Why is there so much anger on this group when the subject is physics ? > > If some physics is 'wrong' then it will soon be found out by someone > > doing an experiment ? > > Swearing at others or getting so emotional is not going to convince > > anyone ? > > If engineers are compensating for GR and SR time dilation in the GPS > > satellite positioning system then relativity must have something going > > for it - the reason I say this is because many engineers have been > > extremely sceptical about SR over the years but they now embrace it. > > For all those people who can't accept the results of relativity - can > > they point to some prediction that has been shown to be false by > > experiment ? > > Sure, that's easy. The anti-relativists point to any > experimental test and say "they're lying, obviously > the real result disproved relativity" or "I'll bet they > never even performed that experiment". > > Ta-da, relativity disproved! > > - Randy Randy Randy things are simpler than that. You consider for instance the Pound-Rebka result f' = f(1+V/c^2) where f is frequency and V is gravitational potential, and then you discover whether it confirms Einstein's 1911 equation c' = c(1+V/c^2) showing how the sped of light varies with the gravitational potential, or rather it confirms the assumption that the speed of light is constant in a gravitational field: c' = c If Randy Randy you think it is Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) that is confirmed, then you apply Einstein's equivalence principle: so you discover that c'=c(1+V/c^2) is equivalent to the equation: c' = c+v where v is the relative speed of the light source and the observer in the absence of a gravitational field. And that is all Randy Randy - then you sing "Divine Einstein" and go into convulsions: http://www.bnl.gov/community/Tours/EinsteinPics/Einsteine.jpg http://www.haverford.edu/physics-astro/songs/divine.htm http://www.physicstoday.org/vol-58/iss-7/images/devine_einstein.mp3 Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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X-Google-Thread: 10f545,461c77a5ba0bf0ea X-Google-Thread: 10b271,d208588c8e88b6fe,start X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,d208588c8e88b6fe,start X-Google-Thread: f55d3,d208588c8e88b6fe,start X-Google-Thread: 1139f8,d208588c8e88b6fe,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gid10b271,gidfa4c1,gidf55d3,gid1139f8,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.philo,fr.sci.maths Subject: Re: relativity, anger, swearing Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:55:35 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 60 Message-ID: <49bcd5a2-454c-4abb-9ee5-6680d47c1bf8@q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> References: <8091d8fe-5b67-49c6-918e-04529e9ad927@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <a063273d-b925-42e1-9ad4-3b25f3bb60cf@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.91.141.163 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1204469735 786 127.0.0.1 (2 Mar 2008 14:55:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: q78g2000hsh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.91.141.163; posting-account=Lz-LbgoAAABPDavKeW-eYeobwLHD_cvQ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)