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Re: = IN GOD WE TRUST=

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From: jesshc
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 23:25
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George Hammond wrote:
> On 23 Feb 2007 08:18:36 -0800, "jesshc"
> <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >George Hammond wrote:
> >> On 22 Feb 2007 15:16:41 -0800, "JessHC"
> >> <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >George Hammond wrote:
> >> >> On 22 Feb 2007 13:23:52 -0800, "JessHC"
> >> >> <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >I like how your paper claims children see the world as "bigger and
> >> >> >faster" because their minds are underdeveloped, which therefore proves
> >> >> >adults' minds are also underdeveloped.  All this time I thought it was
> >> >> >because we start out relatively small compared to the rest of the
> >> >> >world, and then grow bigger.
> >> >>
> >> >> [Hammond]
> >> >> IT IS;
> >> >
> >> >Nope.  You're wrong.
> >> >
> >> >> because:
> >> >>
> >> >>               "...we start out relatively small
> >> >>                 compared to the rest of the
> >> >>                 world, and then grow bigger"
> >> >
> >> >Unfortunately, the actual size of things don't change.
> >>
> >> Depends on how you define the size of things doesn't it stupid.
> >
>
> >[JessHC]
> >Grow up.  Defining the size of something doesn't affect the size of
> >that thing.
> >
>
> [Hammond]
>   That is where you are sadly mistaken.... and THAT is why
> you can't understand what God is!

Oh, I know what "god" is.

>   PHYSICS measures the size and speed of something relative
> to "the clock on the wall" and "the ruler on the desk".
>   HOWEVER,  a physics measurement is not what people
> ACTUALLY SEE.

Oh, of course not.  People live in an entirely different dimension
from physics.  That's why there's ghosts and esp.

>    Example:  If we are in a car and the speedometer says 55
> then everyone AGREES that the "physics measurement" (also
> called the "objective" measurement) of our speed is 55 mph.
> However, the 5 year old kid in the back seat looks out the
> windowm and says "boy, we're really going fast as blazes"
> while the old man drivng the car says "sheeeet kind, we're
> barely crawling... cars are passing me like crazy".  OK...
> these are "subjective" measurements of spacetime.
> And that's the whole point..... a Physics book is all about
> what a "standard clock" and a "standard ruler" (or a
> "standard person" would see, while the Bible is all about
> what "real people" actually see... and as we just
> demonstrated.... all people agree on "objective
> spacetime".... but NOBODY agrees with anyone else about the
> size and speed of "subjective spacetime".  And so
> finally.... it is this DIFFERENCE in "subjective spacetime"
> between people that causes the phenomena known as "GOD".

See, that's what's called an "unsupported assertion."  You make a lot
of those.

>   Finally, the AMAZING DISCOVERY that Hammond has made, is
> that the difference in "subjective spacetime" between people
> is described as a "curvature" of subjective spacetime where
> the amount of curvature is proportional to the individual
> person's brain growth.

Where'd you learn science, the X-Files?

>  We note that a 9 year old has a 50%
> brain growth, because people stop growing at age 18.
>   Yawn... talking to amateurs certainly is time consuming...
> wherer are all the fuckin geniuses?

It's funny you ask that, while being unable to address what is
actually said.  Your response has nothing to do with my point; you
merely wandered off on an unrelated, unsupported, nonsensical
tangent.  I expected nothing less.  At least you're consistent, but
why are you adding groups?  To better the troll?

> >> >> and SO DOES THE BRAIN,
> >> >
> >> >Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the perceived relative size or
> >> >speed of anything.
> >>
> >> Wrong stupid.... if the brain is slow, the world seems fast and vice versa.
> >
> >Try actually addressing the point, rather than dodging and running;
> >please provide legitimate objective verifiable evidence for your
> >assertion.  If the procession of events exceeds the ability of the
> >brain to process those events, it does not follow that the brain
> >perceives those events to be occurring at a different rate; it merely
> >means the processing ability of the brain has been exceeded.
> >
> >>If a person is small his brain tells him the world is big. Stupid.
> >
> >Grow up.  Join reality.  Please provide legitimate objective
> >verifiable evidence for this assertion.  Then provide legitimate
> >objective verifiable evidence that this has anything to do with the
> >existence of any deities.  Bear in mind, your merely repeating your
> >assertion doesn't prove anything, no matter how much pseudo-scientific
> >jargon you throw in.
> >
> >> >> which is why the world looks "bigger and faster" when you are small......
> >> >
> >> >Non sequitur.
> >>
> >> na... relevant fact
> >
> >Nope.  It does not follow that the size of the brain has anything to
> >do with the perceived size of any part of reality.  If you were what
> >you claim to be, you'd know that.  Therefore, you aren't what you
> >claim to be.  There's a surprise; someobody on usenet pretending to be
> >something they're not.
> >
> >> >  The world looks "'bigger and faster' when you are
> >> >small" because of the physical size of the child; it has nothing to do
> >> >with the level of the development of the brain,
> >>
> >> don't be a half witted schmuck.....
> >
> >Argumentum ad hominem.  You lose.
> >
> >> a younger, smaller brain
> >> has SLOWER MENTAL SPEED and therefore the wrold looks
> >> FASTER...
> >
> >You have yet to support this assertion with any objective, verifiable
> >evidence; ain't that just too fucking bad.  Additionally, your asinine
> >assertion has been refuted.  Repeating the assertion doesn't magically
> >make it true.  Argumentum ad nauseam.  You lose.
> >
> >> you don't know what the fuck you're talking about atheist dipshit.
> >
> >That's funny, in that I'm not the one making references to woo-woo
> >unsupported illogical pseudo-scientific nonsense.  Argumentum ad
> >nauseam.  Argumentum ad hominem.  You lose.
> >
> >> snip rest..... come back and talk to me after you get a
> >> couple of degrees in physics.... either that or learn some manners dipshit.
> >
> >Here's a better idea: learn some logic.  Learn that because you
> >desperately wish something to be true doesn't actually make it so.
> >Now fuck off, you ignorant, ill-mannered, worthless, arrogant,
> >pusillanimous insect.  You scabby, bleeding, infected asshole.  You
> >vomitous, pus-laced pile of rotted shit.
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