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Re: SR cannot determine Contraction

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:36
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On Feb 22, 5:35 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
sci.physics.relativity:
> Peri of Pera wrote:
> > [... rephrasing of various aspects of my earlier statements]
>
> Yes.
>
> > The measurements of the coordinate points of a moving object by an
> > observer and applying the Lorentz contraction formula does not
> > constitute a valid measurement.
>
> Hmmm. Making a measurement of the length of a moving object in the usual
> way DOES constitute a valid measurement, and one obtains the "contracted
> value". The "usual way" means having pre-positioned assistants mark the
> endpoints of the moving object simultaneously in the observer's frame,
> and then measuring the distance between the marks using rulers at rest
> in the observer's frame.

Roberts Roberts you are still a freshman among hypnotists in Einstein
criminal cult and do not have the courage to give breathtaking
examples when explaining length contraction. Superior brothers replace
"marking the endpoints of the moving object simultaneously in the
observer's frame" with "closing both doors simultaneously" and so they
can trap a long train inside a short tunnel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIyDfo_mY&mode=related&search=

and also a 80m long pole inside a 40m long barn:

http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/barn_pole.html
"These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors
at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a
switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in
the barn....So, as the pole passes through the barn, there is an
instant when it is completely within the barn. At that instant, you
close both doors simultaneously, with your switch. Of course, you open
them again pretty quickly, but at least momentarily you had the
contracted pole shut up in your barn."

So Roberts Roberts, by trapping long things inside short things,
superior brothers are able to demonstrate the real grandeur of
Einstein's discoveries.

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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