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Re: Relativity needs correction the facts part 2 - Unification of Einstein and Newton

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From: Josef Matz
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:30
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"G. L. Bradford" <glbrad01@insightbb.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
> "Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:54079f1c-d835-463e-b2cc-90ec40325f38@b29g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 20, 1:48 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> sci.physics.relativity:
> > Josef Matz wrote:
> > > GR was developed mainly because of light bending effect.
> >
> > Your knowledge of history is woefully inadequate.
> >
> > GR was developed because Einstein saw inconsistencies between Newtonian
> > gravitation and SR.
>
> Roberts Roberts your criminal (and cleverer) brothers have explained
> this in such a nice way:
>
> http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htm "Einstein's Legacy --
> Where are the "Einsteinians?", Lee Smolin: "Quantum theory was not the
> only theory that bothered Einstein. Few people have appreciated how
> dissatisfied he was with his own theories of relativity. Special
> relativity grew out of Einstein's insight that the laws of
> electromagnetism cannot depend on relative motion and that the speed
> of light therefore must be always the same, no matter how the source
> or the observer moves. Among the consequences of that theory are that
> energy and mass are equivalent (the now-legendary relationship E =
> mc2) and that time and distance are relative, not absolute. SPECIAL
> RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS OF INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET
> EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG WITHIN TWO YEARS OF
> PUBLISHING IT."
>
> http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/OntologyOUP_TimesNR.pdf "What Can
> We Learn about the Ontology of Space and Time from the Theory of
> Relativity?", John D. Norton: "In general relativity there is no
> comparable sense of the constancy of the speed of light. The constancy
> of the speed of light is a consequence of the perfect homogeneity of
> spacetime presumed in special relativity. There is a special velocity
> at each event; homogeneity forces it to be the same velocity
> everywhere. We lose that homogeneity in the transition to general
> relativity and with it we lose the constancy of the speed of light.
> Such was Einstein's conclusion at the earliest moments of his
> preparation for general relativity. ALREADY IN 1907, A MERE TWO YEARS
> AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE SPECIAL THEORY, HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE
> SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE IN THE PRESENCE OF A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD."
>
> Pentcho Valev
>
>   In having universal constancy to the speed of light in a vacuum you end
up
> with multi-level expanses or layers of universe in depth. In broad,
> paralleling universes. With velocity your external environment will tend
to
> crowd in upon you where it was quite roomy before necessitating transfer
to
> an [expanse of external universe environment] friendlier to the
velocity --
> or contraction of [that] space and [that] time -- attaining since you will
> be measuring the speed of light the same constant as always.
>
> GLB
>
>


One ends up with an infinite universe that is apparently shrinked the more
far you outside.
But you can select any point to be observer and then you see nothing is
shrinked locally everywhere
from an local observers view.

Thats in fact the only universe outside GR. If GR is wrong thjis is the
universe you live in.

And for me its proof alreaDy: GR is wrong !

Josef Matz
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