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Article #5547Re: Seriously, What Can We Do About It?
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:16
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 07:16
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On Feb 16, 10:30 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in sci.physics.relativity: > Josef Matz wrote: > > [Nimtz] measured something real. > > Sure. Just not anything traveling faster than c. And not anything > related to "quantum tunneling". > > > In Stanford they should be aware of that > > something is wrong with GR. > > I have no idea why you say this. EVERYONE who understands the issues > knows that "something is wrong with GR" -- it does not meld with quantum > mechanics (though its' uncertain whether the problem lies in GR, in QM, > or some combination). You seem to think there is something else "wrong", > but also seem unable to articulate what it is. Yes Roberts Roberts you are right when you say that "EVERYONE who understands the issues knows that "something is wrong with GR", but criminal brothers cleverer than you also know what exactly this "something" is and react in the only reasonable way: http://www.edge.org/q2008/q08_5.html John Baez: "One of the big problems in physics -- perhaps the biggest! -- is figuring out how our two current best theories fit together. On the one hand we have the Standard Model, which tries to explain all the forces except gravity, and takes quantum mechanics into account. On the other hand we have General Relativity, which tries to explain gravity, and does not take quantum mechanics into account. Both theories seem to be more or less on the right track -- but until we somehow fit them together, or completely discard one or both, our picture of the world will be deeply schizophrenic......So, I eventually decided to quit working on quantum gravity." Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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