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Re: FAT RATS LEAVE THE SINKING SHIP

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From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:41
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On Feb 8, 11:11 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 6, 12:11 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 22, 5:35 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > http://www.edge.org/q2008/q08_5.html
> > > John Baez: "I realized I didn't have enough confidence in either
> > > theory to engage in these heated debates.  I also realized that there
> > > were other questions to work on: questions where I could actually tell
> > > when I was on the right track, questions where researchers cooperate
> > > more and fight less.  So, I eventually decided to quit working on
> > > quantum gravity. It was very painful to do this, since quantum gravity
> > > had been my holy grail for decades.  After you've convinced yourself
> > > that some problem is the one you want to spend your life working on,
> > > it's hard to change your mind.  But when I finally did, it was
> > > tremendously liberating. I wouldn't urge anyone else to quit working
> > > on quantum gravity. Someday, someone is going to make real progress.
> > > When this happens, I may even rejoin the subject.  But for now, I'm
> > > thinking about other things.  And, I'm making more real progress
> > > understanding the universe than I ever did before."
>
> > The fat rat has discovered a new money-spinner (it seems Einstein's
> > zombies have no Masters now):
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfU4AFTZdN0
>
> http://geo600.aei.mpg.de/links/relativity-on-the-world-wide-web
> Relativity on the World Wide Web. Links to accurate sites on special
> and general relativity (by Chris Hillman and John Baez) The link
> address is: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/
> "RelWWW has existed for approximately 15 years, but in the past 5
> years it has become clear that I lack the time and inclination to
> properly maintain this website. More seriously, the World Wide Web has
> not developed in the way I hopefully anticipated back in 1992.
> Consequently, I have concluded that the site is no longer useful for
> the hypothetical "serious student" whom I envisioned as the target
> audience. Therefore, I have deleted it." Chris Hillman, June 2007
>
> Why did fat rats John Baez and Chris Hillman delete the site? The
> answer:
>
> http://www.edge.org/q2008/q08_5.html
> John Baez: "One of the big problems in physics -- perhaps the biggest!
> -- is figuring out how our two current best theories fit together. On
> the one hand we have the Standard Model, which tries to explain all
> the forces except gravity, and takes quantum mechanics into account.
> On the other hand we have General Relativity, which tries to explain
> gravity, and does not take quantum mechanics into account. Both
> theories seem to be more or less on the right track -- but until we
> somehow fit them together, or completely discard one or both, our
> picture of the world will be deeply schizophrenic."
>
> Fat rats have created a schizophrenic world but do not want to live in
> it - let other people waste their time and energy wondering why Divine
> Albert has said either that the speed of light is constant or that it
> is variable or that the speed of light is both constant and variable
> or whatever Divine Albert has found it suitable to say.

Fat rats in the process of creating a schizophrenic world:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/d28e668a90057feb?
John Baez, Oct 27, 1995: "You can see that I did not assert anything
about the photon's mass. I know what the photon's mass is, but I never
talk about it around here because the endless discussion of the
photon's mass is boring, boring, boring."

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com
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