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Article #5578Re: FAT RATS LEAVE THE SINKING SHIP
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:11
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:11
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On Feb 6, 12:11 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 22, 5:35 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > http://www.edge.org/q2008/q08_5.html > > John Baez: "I realized I didn't have enough confidence in either > > theory to engage in these heated debates. I also realized that there > > were other questions to work on: questions where I could actually tell > > when I was on the right track, questions where researchers cooperate > > more and fight less. So, I eventually decided to quit working on > > quantum gravity. It was very painful to do this, since quantum gravity > > had been my holy grail for decades. After you've convinced yourself > > that some problem is the one you want to spend your life working on, > > it's hard to change your mind. But when I finally did, it was > > tremendously liberating. I wouldn't urge anyone else to quit working > > on quantum gravity. Someday, someone is going to make real progress. > > When this happens, I may even rejoin the subject. But for now, I'm > > thinking about other things. And, I'm making more real progress > > understanding the universe than I ever did before." > > The fat rat has discovered a new money-spinner (it seems Einstein's > zombies have no Masters now): > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfU4AFTZdN0 http://geo600.aei.mpg.de/links/relativity-on-the-world-wide-web Relativity on the World Wide Web. Links to accurate sites on special and general relativity (by Chris Hillman and John Baez) The link address is: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/RelWWW/ "RelWWW has existed for approximately 15 years, but in the past 5 years it has become clear that I lack the time and inclination to properly maintain this website. More seriously, the World Wide Web has not developed in the way I hopefully anticipated back in 1992. Consequently, I have concluded that the site is no longer useful for the hypothetical "serious student" whom I envisioned as the target audience. Therefore, I have deleted it." Chris Hillman, June 2007 Why did fat rats John Baez and Chris Hillman delete the site? The answer: http://www.edge.org/q2008/q08_5.html John Baez: "One of the big problems in physics -- perhaps the biggest! -- is figuring out how our two current best theories fit together. On the one hand we have the Standard Model, which tries to explain all the forces except gravity, and takes quantum mechanics into account. On the other hand we have General Relativity, which tries to explain gravity, and does not take quantum mechanics into account. Both theories seem to be more or less on the right track -- but until we somehow fit them together, or completely discard one or both, our picture of the world will be deeply schizophrenic." Fat rats have created a schizophrenic world but do not want to live in it - let other people waste their time and energy wondering why Divine Albert has said either that the speed of light is constant or that it is variable or that the speed of light is both constant and variable or whatever Divine Albert has found it suitable to say. Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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