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On Jan 18, 2:03 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Matter from Thin Air
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/ee4fe3946dfc0c31/1f1872476bc6ca90?hl=en#1f1872476bc6ca90
Curing Einstein's Disease
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/4ff9e866e0d87562/f5f848ad8aba67da?hl=en#f5f848ad8aba67da

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> On Jan 18, 6:37 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> sci.physics.relativity:
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> > Albertito wrote:
> > > Then, why did Einstein propose a local speed of light as
> > > c'= c(1 + V/c2)?
>
> > Because he was struggling to find General Relativity, but had not yet
> > figured out all the details. His intermediate formula is approximate,
> > but not correct. When he proposed it he did not fully understand the
> > difference between local and non-local phenomena.
>
> > Tom Roberts
>
> Roberts Roberts, Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) is consistent
> with the gravitational redshift factor 1+V/c^2 confirmed
> experimentally by Pound and Rebka. In other words Roberts Roberts, the
> equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) is CORRECT, NOT APPROXIMATE: any different
> equation (that may seem correct to you) would be inconsistent with the
> redshift factor. For that reason Roberts Roberts superior brothers in
> Einstein criminal cult have always been teaching that the speed of
> light varies with the gravitational potential, in accordance with
> Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2):
>
> http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm
> "So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is _not_ constant
> in a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies
> as well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]. If this
> were not so, there would be no bending of light by the gravitational
> field of stars....Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the
> calculation in: 'On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of
> Light,' Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911. which predated the full formal
> development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is
> widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99
> of the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity.' You will find in
> section 3 of that paper, Einstein's derivation of the (variable) speed
> of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is,
> c' = c0 ( 1 + V / c^2 )
> where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the
> speed of light c0 is measured."
>
> http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp"The first confirmation of a
> long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in
> 1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a
> previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the
> speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational
> field....Faced with this evidence, Einstein stated:"In the second
> place our result shows that, according to the general theory of
> relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in
> vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the
> special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently
> referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of
> light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light
> varies with position."......Today we find that since the Special
> Theory of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called
> mainstream science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that
> the speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat
> surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the
> Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der
> Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the
> gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light
> in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for
> the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity.
> One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2)
> where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the
> measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL
> REDSHIFT FACTOR."
>
> Pentcho Valev
> pva...@yahoo.com