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Article #5825ABSOLUTE SIMULTANEITY, FALSE LIGHT POSTULATE, ABSOLUTE IDIOCY
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:51
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:51
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http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0604/0604010v1.pdf Absolute simultaneity: Special relativity without light signals or synchronised clocks, J.H.Field, Departement de Physique Nucleaire et Corpusculaire, Universite de Geneve "Using only the reciprocity postulate, it is demonstrated that the spatial separation of two objects, at rest in some inertial frame, is invariant. This result holds in both Galilean and special relativity. A corollary is that there are no "length contraction" or associated "relativity of simultaneity" effects in the latter theory." http://www.routledge-philosophy.com/books/Einstein-Relativity-and-Absolute-Simultaneity-isbn9780415701747 "Einstein, Relativity and Absolute Simultaneity is an anthology of original essays by an international team of leading philosophers and physicists who, on the centenary of Albert Einsteins Special Theory of Relativity, come together in this volume to reassess the contemporary paradigm of the relativistic concept of time." http://philosophy.ucsd.edu/faculty/ccallender/ "On Finding 'Real' Time in Quantum Mechanics" (draft) Absolute Simultaneity. (Eds) W.L. Craig and Q. Smith. NY: OxfordUniversity Press, 2007. Craig Callender: "In my opinion, by far the best way for the tenser to respond to Putnam et al is to adopt the Lorentz 1915 interpretation of time dilation and Fitzgerald contraction.1 Lorentz attributed these effects (and hence the famous null results regarding an aether) to the Lorentz invariance of the dynamical laws governing matter and radiation, not to spacetime structure. On this view, Lorentz invariance is not a spacetime symmetry but a dynamical symmetry, and the special relativistic effects of dilation and contraction are not purely kinematical. The background spacetime is Newtonian or neo- Newtonian, not Minkowskian. Both Newtonian and neo-Newtonian spacetime include a global absolute simultaneity among their invariant structures (with Newtonian spacetime singling out one of neo-Newtonian spacetime's many preferred inertial frames as the rest frame). On this picture, there is no relativity of simultaneity and spacetime is uniquely decomposable into space and time." In a world different from Einstein zombie world the immediate question would be: "No relativity of simultaneity? No length contraction? No Minkowski space-time? Then perhaps Einstein's 1905 light postulate, the logical source of all those non-entities, is false?" In Einstein zombie world an immediate reaction is: No special relativity! Long live general relativity!": http://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Curved-Spacetime-without-relativity/dp/0955706807 "Relativity in Curved Spacetime: Life without special relativity" by Eric Baird "Relativity theory has become one of the icons of Twentieth Century science. It's reckoned to be a difficult subject, taught as a layered series of increasingly difficult mathematics and increasingly abstract concepts. We're told that relativity theory is supposed to be this complicated and counter-intuitive. But how much of this historical complexity is really necessary? Can we bypass the interpretations and paradoxes and pseudoparadoxes of Einstein's special theory and jump directly to a deeper and more intuitive description of reality? What if curvature is a fundamental part of physics, and a final theory of relativity shouldn't reduce to Einstein's "flat" 1905 theory //on principle//? "Relativity..." takes us on a whistlestop tour of Twentieth Century physics - from black holes, quantum mechanics, wormholes and the Big Bang to the workings of the human mind, and asks: what would physics look like without special relativity?" Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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X-Google-Thread: 10f545,f26abdc18d5e8298,start X-Google-Thread: 10b271,f26abdc18d5e8298,start X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,f26abdc18d5e8298,start X-Google-Thread: 1139f8,f26abdc18d5e8298,start X-Google-Thread: f55d3,f26abdc18d5e8298,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gid10b271,gidfa4c1,gid1139f8,gidf55d3,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, fr.sci.physique, fr.sci.maths, fr.sci.philo Subject: ABSOLUTE SIMULTANEITY, FALSE LIGHT POSTULATE, ABSOLUTE IDIOCY Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:51:48 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 69 Message-ID: <88e56a06-3acd-4cc5-b527-03b87eef61bf@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.91.141.159 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1199861509 23920 127.0.0.1 (9 Jan 2008 06:51:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 06:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.91.141.159; posting-account=Lz-LbgoAAABPDavKeW-eYeobwLHD_cvQ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)