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Article #5858EXTREMELY SILLY EINSTEINIANS
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:28
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:28
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Most Einsteinians know that the speed of light varies with the gravitational potential and that Einstein discovered this in 1907, gave the respective equation in 1911 and confirmed the effect once more in 1920. Most Einsteinians also know that Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) is EQUIVALENT to the equation c'=c+v given by Newton's emission theory of light and therefore Einstein's 1905 light postulate is just false. And Einsteinans devise various kinds of camouflage - some are silly, others not so silly. However there is a group of Extremely Silly Einsteinians (ESE) who know the following: Special relativity says the speed of light is both constant and maximal and this has been confirmed by the Michelson- Morley experiment and any other experiment. In a gravitational field the speed of photons should obey what special relativity says. Examples of ESE: http://www.hawking.org.uk/lectures/dice.html ESE Stephen Hawking: "Both Mitchell and Laplace thought of light as consisting of particles, rather like cannon balls, that could be slowed down by gravity, and made to fall back on the star. But a famous experiment, carried out by two Americans, Michelson and Morley in 1887, showed that light always travelled at a speed of one hundred and eighty six thousand miles a second, no matter where it came from. How then could gravity slow down light, and make it fall back." http://admin.wadsworth.com/resource_uploads/static_resources/0534493394/4891/Ch01-Essay.pdf ESE Clifford Will, "THE RENAISSANCE OF GENERAL RELATIVITY": "The first glimmerings of the black hole idea date to the 18th century, in the writings of a British amateur astronomer, the Reverend John Michell. Reasoning on the basis of the corpuscular theory that light would be attracted by gravity, he noted that the speed of light emitted from the surface of a massive body would be reduced by the time the light was very far from the source. (Michell of course did not know special relativity.)" Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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X-Google-Thread: 10f545,e601b8276a2a8f77,start X-Google-Thread: 10b271,e601b8276a2a8f77,start X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,e601b8276a2a8f77,start X-Google-Thread: f55d3,e601b8276a2a8f77,start X-Google-Thread: 1139f8,e601b8276a2a8f77,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gid10b271,gidfa4c1,gidf55d3,gid1139f8,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, fr.sci.physique, fr.sci.philo, fr.sci.maths Subject: EXTREMELY SILLY EINSTEINIANS Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:28:02 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: <d363de78-db9b-4c54-b639-a7d133687450@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.91.141.166 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1200468483 25606 127.0.0.1 (16 Jan 2008 07:28:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:28:03 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.91.141.166; posting-account=Lz-LbgoAAABPDavKeW-eYeobwLHD_cvQ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)