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Re: I am confused by relativity

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From: Chris
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 12:38
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This would mean that the twin paradox does not occur.

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Chris (=Abonito)
http://www.myphilosophy.eu
"Pentcho Valev" <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> On Dec 24, 2:52 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
> SperM.hotmail.com> wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
>> "Abonito" <anonym...@noserver.com> wrote:
>> > Relativity Geometry
>> > Relativity - Affine Geometry ?
>> > Einstein's special theory of relativity is about measurements between 
>> > frames
>> > of reference in a state of non acceleration.
>>
>> Not really. Special relativity can work with accelerated
>> objects and frames, but never mind.
>>
>> > It is an observation that the
>> > velocity of light is independent of the relative velocity between 
>> > observer
>> > and the source. From this Lorenz postulated a length contraction to 
>> > allow
>> > for this. Einstein derived the same equation from the observations.
>> > If you look at this equation there is no special frame so any frame may 
>> > be
>> > taken as the reference frame.
>> > Let us consider the passage of mesons from the origin in the upper
>> > atmosphere to their arrival at a counter on the earth's surface. The
>> > observer "sees" the origin from his frame and since he is "looking" at 
>> > the
>> > meson then this point is only a few feet above the laboratory roof 
>> > because
>> > of the Lorenz contraction.
>>
>> No, not at all.
>> The observer on the ground knows that and where in the upper
>> atmosphere muons (and other stuff) are created. Also knowing
>> how short muons live on the average, he calculates that there
>> are much more muons reaching the ground than expected.
>> It turns out that if the "internal muon lifetime clocks" are slowed
>> down by the precisely the amount described by the equations,
>> the number that reaches the ground fits the expected value.
>> This is "time dilation" in action.
>
> Moortel Moortel what you call "how short muons live on average" your
> masters used to call "muon lifetime at rest". But they don't even
> mention it anymore. Why? Because people now know that this "muon
> lifetime at rest" is one of the greatest frauds ever devised by
> Einstein criminal cult:
>
> http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/69ad1af61851c041?
>
> When the lifetime "at rest" is measured, by "at rest" Einstein
> criminal cult mean a crash undergone by the muon in which its speed
> changes from about 300000km/s to zero. That crash is so terrible that
> the muon "dies" quickly, much more quickly than muons that have not
> undergone the crash:
>
> http://web.mit.edu/c_hill/www/muons_paper.pdf
> "In this experiment, we measure two of the basic properties of the
> muon, namely, its mean lifetime and mass in its rest frame. We measure
> the decay curve of cosmic-ray muons that have come to rest in a
> plastic scintillator by looking for electrons produced in their
> decay."
>
> Pentcho Valev
> pvalev@yahoo.com 
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