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On Dec 6, 4:37 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
sci.physics.relativity:
> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> >http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdf
> > John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as
> > evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost
> > universally use it as support for the light postulate of special
> > relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE
> > WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT
> > POSTULATE."
>
> Sure. The fact that this one experiment is compatible with other
> theories does not refute relativity in any way. The full experimental
> record refutes most if not all emission theories, but not relativity.
>
> > THE POUND-REBKA EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY
> > OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE.
>
> Sure. But this experiment, too, does not refute relativity. The full
> experimental record refutes most if not all emission theories, but not
> relativity.
>
> > Indeed, the Pound-Rebka experiment confirmed the equation f'=f(1+V/
> > c^2) which is EQUIVALENT to Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2)
> > which is EQUIVALENT to the equation c'=c+v given by the EMISSION
> > theory of light.
>
> This is just a repeat of the nonsense you continually attempt to
> promulgate. The "equivalence" you claim is wrong, and is based on
> intermixing various INCOMPLETE ideas and applying them outside their
> domains of validity....
>
> Einstein himself abandoned that 1911 equation in favor of GR, in which
> it is seen that the equation is an APPROXIMATION that applies ONLY to a
> specific and unusual physical situation.

A simple exercise for you and your zombies Roberts Roberts. You have:

c = f * L     initially

c' = f' * L'    finally

f' = f(1+V/c^2)      confirmed experimentally

c' = ? L' = ?

You have ONLY TWO possible solutions Roberts Roberts:

Solution 1: c' = c ; L' = L/(1+V/c^2)
This solution has been rejected by Albert Einstein in 1911 and,
implicitly, by Tom Roberts a century later. Tom Roberts wrote in
sci.physics.relativity:
> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > CAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT EXCEED 300000 km/s IN A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD?
> Sure, depending on the physical conditions of the measurement. It can
> also be less than "300000 km/s" (by which I assume you really mean the
> standard value for c). And this can happen even for an accelerated
> observer in a region without any significant gravitation (e.g. in
> Minkowski spacetime).
> Tom Roberts tjroberts@lucent.com

Solution 2: c' = c(1+V/c^2) ; L' = L
This solution has been confirmed by Albert Einstein in 1911 and,
implicitly, by Tom Roberts a century later.

A somewhat more difficult exercise Roberts Roberts is one where you
will have to prove that Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) is
EQUIVALENT to the equation c'=c+v given by the emission theory of
light. That is an exercise for YOU, not for your zombies.

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com