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Article #6049Re: NO ACTIVE HYPNOTIST IN EINSTEIN CRIMINAL CULT?
From: gdewilde
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:39
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:39
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On Nov 19, 1:59 pm, Don Stockbauer <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 19, 4:11 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > One can still find sites where Einstein criminals explicitly compare > > Divine Albert with Jesus Christ: > > >http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=vi... > > Einstein - Relativity and Beyond > > John Moffat, Howard Burton, Lee Smolin, John Stachel > > > I suspect all those sites will soon disappear and the world will learn > > that the same criminals have been anti-Einsteinians all along: > > >http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_4.3/smolin.htmLeeSmolin: "Quantum > > theory was not the only theory that bothered Einstein. Few people have > > appreciated how dissatisfied he was with his own theories of > > relativity. Special relativity grew out of Einstein's insight that the > > laws of electromagnetism cannot depend on relative motion and that the > > speed of light therefore must be always the same, no matter how the > > source or the observer moves. Among the consequences of that theory > > are that energy and mass are equivalent (the now-legendary > > relationship E = mc2) and that time and distance are relative, not > > absolute. SPECIAL RELATIVITY WAS THE RESULT OF 10 YEARS OF > > INTELLECTUAL STRUGGLE, YET EINSTEIN HAD CONVINCED HIMSELF IT WAS WRONG > > WITHIN TWO YEARS OF PUBLISHING IT." > > >http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/OntologyOUP_TimesNR.pdf"What Can > > We Learn about the Ontology of Space and Time from the Theory of > > Relativity?", John D. Norton: "In general relativity there is no > > comparable sense of the constancy of the speed of light. The constancy > > of the speed of light is a consequence of the perfect homogeneity of > > spacetime presumed in special relativity. There is a special velocity > > at each event; homogeneity forces it to be the same velocity > > everywhere. We lose that homogeneity in the transition to general > > relativity and with it we lose the constancy of the speed of light. > > Such was Einstein's conclusion at the earliest moments of his > > preparation for general relativity. ALREADY IN 1907, A MERE TWO YEARS > > AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THE SPECIAL THEORY, HE HAD CONCLUDED THAT THE > > SPEED OF LIGHT IS VARIABLE IN THE PRESENCE OF A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD." > > >http://www.nybooks.com/articles/20279 > > Lee Smolin: "It is also disappointing that none of the biographers > > mention the writings that lead John Stachel, the founding editor of > > the Einstein Papers project, to speak of "the other Einstein." > > >http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/files/975547d7-2d00-433a-b7e3-4a... > > John Stachel: "It is not so well known that there was "another > > Einstein," who from 1916 on was skeptical about the CONTINUUM as a > > foundational element in physics..." Albert Einstein: "I consider it > > entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, > > that is on CONTINUOUS structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole > > castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also > > nothing of the rest of contemporary physics." > > >http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/essay-einstein-relativity.htm > > This reprints an essay written ca. 1983, "'What Song the Syrens Sang': > > How Did Einstein Discover Special Relativity?" in John Stachel, > > Einstein from "B" to "Z". > > "The idea that a light beam consisted of a stream of particles had > > been espoused by Newton and maintained its popularity into the middle > > of the 19th century. It was called the "emission theory" of light, a > > phrase I shall use. The need to explain the phenomena of interference, > > diffraction and polarization of light gradually led physicists to > > abandon the emission theory in favor of the competing wave theory, > > previously its less-favored rival. Maxwell's explanation of light as a > > type of electromagnetic wave seemed to end the controversy with a > > definitive victory of the wave theory. However, if Einstein was right > > (as events slowly proved he was) the story must be much more > > complicated. Einstein was aware of the difficulties with Maxwell's > > theory-and of the need for what we now call a quantum theory of > > electromagnetic radiation-well before publishing his SRT paper. He > > regarded Maxwell's equations as some sort of statistical average-of > > what he did not know, of course-which worked very well to explain many > > optical phenomena, but could not be used to explain all the > > interactions of light and matter. A notable feature of his first light > > quantum paper is that it almost completely avoids mention of the > > ether, even in discussing Maxwell's theory. Giving up the ether > > concept allowed Einstein to envisage the possibility that a beam of > > light was "an independent structure," as he put it a few years later, > > "which is radiated by the light source, just as in Newton's emission > > theory of light." > > >http://ustl1.univ-lille1.fr/culture/publication/lna/detail/lna40/pgs/... > > Jean Eisenstaedt: "Il n'y a alors aucune raison theorique a ce que la > > vitesse de la lumiere ne depende pas de la vitesse de sa source ainsi > > que de celle de l'observateur terrestre ; plus clairement encore, il > > n'y a pas de raison, dans le cadre de la logique des Principia de > > Newton, pour que la lumiere se comporte autrement - quant a sa > > trajectoire - qu'une particule materielle. Il n'y a pas non plus de > > raison pour que la lumiere ne soit pas sensible a la gravitation. > > Bref, pourquoi ne pas appliquer a la lumiere toute la theorie > > newtonienne ? C'est en fait ce que font plusieurs astronomes, > > opticiens, philosophes de la nature a la fin du XVIIIeme siecle. Les > > resultats sont etonnants... et aujourd'hui nouveaux." > > > Translation from French: "Therefore there is no theoretical reason why > > the speed of light should not depend on the speed of the source and > > the speed of the terrestrial observer as well; even more clearly, > > there is no reason, in the framework of the logic of Newton's > > Principia, why light should behave, as far as its trajectory is > > concerned, differently from a material particle. Neither is there any > > reason why light should not be sensible to gravitation. Briefly, why > > don't we apply the whole Newtonian theory to light? In fact, that is > > what many astronomers, opticians, philosophers of nature did by the > > end of 18th century. The results are surprising....and new nowadays." > > > Pentcho Valev > > Don't like Einstein much, do you? Seems more like he dislikes the works of Einstein V1.0 beta
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