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Article #6050PHYSICS: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY?
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:58
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:58
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Harvey Brown's and Oliver Pooley's idea: MINKOWSKI SPACE-TIME: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY is extremely dangerous since it naturally leads to: PHYSICS: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY which sounds like Bryan Wallace's: http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm THE FARCE OF PHYSICS So the cleverest hypnotist in Einstein criminal cult, John Norton, urgently published a rebutal which however is not convincing: http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/Constructive_Relativity.pdf John Norton: "These sentiments are captured more vividly in the earlier slogan of Brown and Pooley (2004) of Minkowski spacetime as a "glorious non-entity." This would make Brown's view a form of spacetime relationism, although I will suggest below in Section 6 that it might be more restrictive than familiar forms of relationism." The problem is that Harvey Brown and Oliver Pooley CAN whereas John Norton CANNOT explain how a long train can be trapped inside a short tunnel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSRIyDfo_mY&mode=related&search= or a 80m long pole can be trapped inside a 40m long barn: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/barn_pole.html "These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in the barn....So, as the pole passes through the barn, there is an instant when it is completely within the barn. At that instant, you close both doors simultaneously, with your switch. Of course, you open them again pretty quickly, but at least momentarily you had the contracted pole shut up in your barn." Pentcho Valev
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X-Google-Thread: 10f545,7442dd7d28507a55,start X-Google-Thread: 10b271,7442dd7d28507a55,start X-Google-Thread: f74ae,7442dd7d28507a55,start X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,7442dd7d28507a55,start X-Google-Thread: 1139f8,7442dd7d28507a55,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gid10b271,gidf74ae,gidfa4c1,gid1139f8,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.astro, fr.sci.physique, fr.sci.maths Subject: PHYSICS: A GLORIOUS NON-ENTITY? Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:58:52 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 42 Message-ID: <9ec9c254-00c2-4817-9b94-4fc2649d6077@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.91.141.166 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1195577933 30677 127.0.0.1 (20 Nov 2007 16:58:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=85.91.141.166; posting-account=Lz-LbgoAAABPDavKeW-eYeobwLHD_cvQ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Content-Disposition: inline