🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: sci.physics.relativity
Article #6107

Re: NO SIGN OF ETHER DRIFT: WHY?

#6107
From: Uncle Al
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:04
43 lines
3391 bytes
Koobee Wublee wrote:
> 
> On Nov 14, 1:30 pm, Laurent wrote:
> > On Nov 14, 2:06 pm, Koobee Wublee wrote:
> 
> > > Under the mathematics of the Lorentz transform, absolute simultaneity
> > > is forbidden.  The mathematical manifestation of the Lorentz transform
> > > is the combination of time dilation and the principle of relativity.
> > > Poincare had already identified this as relative simultaneity.
> > > Relative simultaneity is the root cause of the twin's paradox.  Under
> > > the concept of relative simultaneity, any interference pattern cannot
> > > happen.  The interferometers should not have worked.  Since
> > > interferometers work so well and everytime ever so consistently, the
> > > most logical conclusion is that relative simultaneity must not
> > > possibly be valid.  This also means the Lorentz transform must be
> > > wrong.
> >
> > Not what GPS technology seems to suggest. Same with interplanetary
> > travel. GTR is a proven fact. Sorry.
> 
> There are other hypotheses that predict the same result.  <shrug>
> 
> Besides, it is not conclusive that GPS utilizes GR to do so.  To do
> that, it requires a ground-to-satellite synchronization.  This is just
> too costly and too error-prone.  In addition to the error associated
> with downlink from satellite to the ground, there is just too much
> error compared to satellite-to-satellite synchronization.
[snip crap]

   1) Idiot.
   2) Relativistic effects on orbital clocks
<http://relativity.livingreviews.org/open?pubNo=lrr-2003-1&page=node5.html>
   3) Idiot
   4) Lithium ions as clocks at 0.06c to 10^(-7) accuracy
<http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2007/1113/2>
   5) Idiot.
   6) Ineducable idiot.

-- 
Uncle Al 
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ 
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) 
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
Technical Details
Message-ID: <473C984F.6EDA3A2@hate.spam.net>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.28.186.77.MISMATCH!hwmpeer03.lga!hwmnpeer01.lga!news.highwinds-media.com!hw-filter.phx!newsfe10.phx.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
References: <1194938024.903129.206100@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1195049809.138105.216890@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1195067212.124049.138420@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1195075837.810601.168270@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <c4e0efc9-ac98-4fe3-b434-2a78c0b5eec0@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 10f545,e1ebd9321ee85e88
X-Google-Thread: f74ae,e1ebd9321ee85e88
X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,e1ebd9321ee85e88
X-Google-Thread: 1139f8,e1ebd9321ee85e88
X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gidf74ae,gidfa4c1,gid1139f8,public,usenet
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.28.186.77.MISMATCH!hwmpeer03.lga!hwmnpeer01.lga!news.highwinds-media.com!hw-filter.phx!newsfe10.phx.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
Message-ID: <473C984F.6EDA3A2@hate.spam.net>
From: Uncle Al <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net>
Organization: The Noble Krell
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro,fr.sci.physique,fr.sci.maths
Subject: Re: NO SIGN OF ETHER DRIFT: WHY?
References: <1194938024.903129.206100@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> 
  <1195049809.138105.216890@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1195067212.124049.138420@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com>
  <1195075837.810601.168270@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <c4e0efc9-ac98-4fe3-b434-2a78c0b5eec0@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 43
NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.5.248.146
X-Complaints-To: admin@cox.net
X-Trace: newsfe10.phx 1195153422 68.5.248.146 (Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:03:42 MST)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:03:42 MST
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:04:47 -0800