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Article #6143Re: MICHEL JANSSEN EXPLAINS LENGTH CONTRACTION
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:18
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:18
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On Nov 13, 7:36 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Nov 13, 12:14 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Nov 13, 6:29 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Nov 13, 8:57 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > >http://www.ias.umn.edu/pdf/TimeandRelativity-Janssen.pdf > > > > Michel Janssen: "Does Minkowski space-time, thus understood, explain > > > > length contraction and the phenomena examined in this talk? Yes and > > > > no. It explains them by showing they need no explanation." > > > > You forgot to add your usual misinterpretation to this. What > > > do you think is the significance of that statement in light > > > of his opening sentence? > > > > "I defend the widely held view challenged by Harvey Brown > > > in his recent book that special relativity is preferable to those > > > parts of Lorentz's electron theory it replaced because various > > > phenomena that special relativity reveals to be of purely kinematical > > > origin were given a dynamical explanation in Lorentz's theory." > > > I have neither an interpretation nor a misinterpretation of length > > contraction > > I didn't ask for one. Your common format is to provide > a misinterpretation of the paper you cite, usually along > the lines that someone in the "priesthood" is upsetting > the "orthodoxy". Yes, but the orthodoxy is not well defined sometimes. Consider this: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/90117d15e24867a3? Master Tom Roberts claims length contraction is GEOMETRICAL whereas Master Harvey Brown gets a lot of money by producing bestsellers where he claims length contraction is PHYSICAL (particles somehow get closer together). Where is the orthodoxy? Pentcho Valev
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