🚀 go-pugleaf

Pentcho, let me help you to express your objections to those 'einstein
zombie world' scientists.

the curved space-time they are talking about is a mathematical
interpretation of what an observer thinks/estimates about other
observer's reality. Oh reality, what is reality ? There are two
different notions of reality people talk about

1) the reality we see ( it is the picture the light has brought to us
from all over the universe)
2) the estimated reality to be there-now simultanious with the
observer

Here is an example so u understand what i mean:
in 1) we consider the Sun picture we see to be the real Sun
in 2) we consider the Sun that is there-now to be real (even though we
know the light has not brought its view to us yet)

Now all the misunderstanding comes from the fact that scientists from
'einstein zombie world' are talking about reality 2) but the laymen
like Pentcho listening to those scientists or reading their books
somehow think in terms of 1)

Pentcho - the real world we live in is not curved and torned apart by
black-holes. It is only what a distant from the black-hole observer
thinks the simultanious with him reality (as in 2)) would have to be
to explain what he sees (as in 1). What i mean is this - an observer
sees that a test particle entering the black-hole slows down to a
halt. What could be an explanation of that if we want to hold on to
the notion of a simutanious with us reality stretching in all
directions to infinity ( even though the real worlds shows us that it
does not exist in that way )? the only way the onserver can think of
is that his "there-now" simultanious with him reality has to be curved
up to a mistical event horizon and oh my god after event horizon it
cant me hm or maybe it can be - it flips to 90 degrees to our 3D
world  in some mistical 4th dimention and goes on into infinity hell
knows how twisted there on ....