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Article #6221Re: A New Solution to the Twins Paradox, and Others
From: Androcles
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:02
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:02
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<nessunoic@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1193924658.659385.109030@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... : one last note if you allow me. : As someone told here and as many books on relativity assert: Wackypedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_proof lists: 1 Direct proof 2 Proof by induction 3 Proof by transposition 4 Proof by contradiction 5 Proof by construction 6 Proof by exhaustion 7 Probabilistic proof 8 Combinatorial proof 9 Nonconstructive proof 10 Elementary proof Not included: 11 Proof by "everybody knows" (proof by popular opinion). 12 Proof by "because I say so" (proof by assertion). 'we establish by definition that the "time" required by light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel from B to A' because I SAY SO and you have to agree because I'm the great genius, STOOOPID, don't you dare question it. -- Rabbi Albert Einstein http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/tAB=tBA.gif : : For the entire outward and return parts of the trip, A does : "observe" B's clock running slow. Here B is moving back and forth and : A is staying still on earth all the time. : : Note the word used - "observe". : And this is this word that is wrong here and mislead all of us. A does : not observe it but he calculates/assumes it to be happening to : preserve the validity of simultanious with him reality and : simultanious with B reality (all those there-now dots). It never happened. : In real world : A sees 3x slower time flow of B on way away and 3x faster on way back. : Where then the estimation of B's clocks running slower comes from? It : comes from the fact that in 20 A's years only 12 B's years pass. Nonsense.
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