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"Gordon Stangler" <gordon.stangler@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Andro,
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> Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
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> From: Gordon Stangler <gordon.stang...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:08:39 -0700 (PDT)
> Local: Fri, Jun 12 2009 4:08 pm
> Subject: Re: EINSTEINIANA AND REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM
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> On Jun 12, 3:53 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
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>> "Gordon Stangler" <gordon.stang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > Pentcho,
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>> > In one frame, the pole is length contracted to fit inside the barn,
>> > and the barn doors are closed simultaneously, trapping the pole
>> > inside.  The doors are then opened, allowing the pole to pass through.
>
>> > In the other frame, the barn is length dilated, but the barn doors are
>> > closed, first one, then the other, and opened one after another,
>> > <different times>.  We have to drop simultaneity in order to get the
>> > pole through the barn.
>> > Hope this helps.
>
>> Suppose the length of the barn is 10m, and the length of the
>> pole is also 10m when at rest in the barn.
>> Being a barn, it is closed at one end and the door is closed
>> as the pole enters. It will fit when at rest.
>
>>  Calculate the length of the pole when moving at 0.866c.
>
>> xi = (x-vt)/sqrt( 1-v^2/c^2)
>>  http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/x'=x-vt.gif
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>> xi = (10m)/sqrt (1-0.866^2/1^2)
>>  = (10m)/sqrt (1-0.75)
>>  = (10m)/sqrt (0.25)
>>  = (10m)/0.5
>>    = 20m
>> It will not fit until it is brought to a sudden stop.
>
>> Your idiot drool doesn't help at all, you are a fuckwit.
>> Why do you incompetent fuckin' lunatics call it length
>>  "contraction"?
>
> You multiply by gamma inverse to get length contraction, gamma to get
> time dilation.
> xi = 10m * sqrt(0.25) = 10m * 0.5 = 5m


Excuse me, but I was using Einstein's relativity, not Stangler's relativity,
as shown here:
 http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/figures/img53.gif

> I posit that you are deluded, or willfully ignorant of basic
> mathematics and dimensional analysis.  I doubt that you can't even
> hold a conversation without resorting to childish insults.


BTW,
tau = (t-vx/c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
Substituting for x its value,
tau = (t-v (vt) /c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
= (t- tv^2 /c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
= t (1- v^2 /c^2)/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
= t  * sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

You multiply by gamma inverse to get Einstein's time contraction
and gamma to get Einstein's length dilation.

"It seems that Light is propagated in time, spending in its passage from
the sun to us about seven Minutes of time:" -- DEFIN. II of Opticks Or,
A Treatise of  the Reflections, Refractions, Inflections and Colours of
Light - Sir Isaac Newton.


"the velocity of light in our theory plays the part, physically, of an
infinitely great velocity" --� 4. Physical Meaning of the Equations
Obtained in Respect to Moving Rigid Bodies and Moving Clocks
-- ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein

Einstein plays the part, physically, of the clown in Bozo's Circus, with
Stangler as his stooge.

You can posit and doubt all you want to, you'll still be a deluded
and wilfully ignorant bigot that can't manage the simplest algebra
anymore than your tin god whom you now disagree with could.
That's not a childish insult either, it's a fact.
In 1895 Einstein failed an examination that would have allowed him to study 
for a diploma as an electrical engineer at the Eidgen�ssische Technische 
Hochschule in Zurich. Ref: 
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Einstein.html

Not too many people have heard of Stangler's relativity.