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Article #6498Re: EINSTEINIANA AND REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM
From: Slartibartfast
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:15
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:15
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On Jun 12, 7:51 am, Pentcho Valev : > You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors at either end, > that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a switch. Of course "simultaneously" has not been carefully defined here. > You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in > the barn. Now someone takes the pole and tries to run (at nearly the > speed of light) through the barn with the pole horizontal. Special > Relativity (SR) says that a moving object is contracted in the > direction of motion: this is called the Lorentz Contraction. So, if > the pole is set in motion lengthwise, then it will contract in the > reference frame of a stationary observer.....So, as the pole passes > through the barn, there is an instant when it is completely within the > barn. Of course an instant is a time of zero duration. > At that instant, you close both doors simultaneously, with your > switch. Of course, you open them again pretty quickly, but at least > momentarily you had the contracted pole shut up in your barn. Of course these doors should open and close faster than light. > runner emerges from the far door unscathed.....If the doors are kept > shut the rod will obviously smash into the barn door at one end. If > the door withstands this the leading end of the rod will come to rest > in the frame of reference of the stationary observer. Of course the door can't stand the kinetic energy of the rod. > There can be no > such thing as a rigid rod in relativity so the trailing end will not > stop immediately and the rod will be compressed beyond the amount it > was Lorentz contracted. If it does not explode under the strain and > it is sufficiently elastic it will come to rest and start to spring > back to its natural shape but since it is too big for the barn the > other end is now going to crash into the back door and the rod will be > trapped in a compressed state inside the barn." Of course this is Disneyworld. > The premise on which this conclusion is based is Einstein's 1905 light > postulate so if rationality in science had not been destroyed, > Einsteinians would have presented the above deduction as REDUCTIO AD > ABSURDUM and, accordingly, would have rejected the light postulate as > false. In the era of Postscientism the compressed 80m long pole inside > the 40m long barn can only be a glorious manifestation of the validity > of Divine Albert's Divine Theory. Ykes !
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