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Article #6511Re: CRITICIZING DEAD SCIENCE
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:21
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:21
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On Jun 9, 9:57 am, "Whoever" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote: > "Pentcho Valev" <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a909857880 > > "The Ideology of Relativity: The Case of the Clock Paradox" by Peter > > Hayes > > "There is, nonetheless, some divergence about how to resolve the clock > > paradox amongst mainstream scientists and philosophers who address the > > issue. The majority suggest that (a) the general theory is required to > > resolve the paradox because like "Kritikus" they have deduced - quite > > correctly - that it cannot be explained by the special theory. > > However, a minority believe that (b) the paradox can be explained by > > the special theory because they have deduced - again quite correctly - > > that it is incredible to suppose that only the general theory can > > explain a prediction ostensibly arising from the prior special theory. > > Each deduction, considered in isolation, is allowable within the > > mainstream; what is not permitted is to bring the two of them together > > to conclude that (c) neither the special nor the general theory > > explains time dilation." > > No .. the correct answer is d) that SR and GR do both explain it. And get > identical results. I am afraid your Masters in Einsteiniana want you to be much more confused than that: http://www.physorg.com/news163738003.html http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0905/0905.2428v1.pdf Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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